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Old 08-31-2009, 11:19 AM   #11 (permalink)
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You are a professional pilot and know the plane is flown by a professional pilot and YOU feel UNSAFE in the back of the plane? Wow. Maybe you fear they are taking some of the same shortcuts you are.

Just think how the pax must feel.
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:25 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Curious... How many of you actually wear your seatbelt in the hotel van?

I recall a moment of clarity two winters ago after shooting an approach to mins into a small midwest airport. Midnight, blowing snow, icy ramps, etc. On the van ride to the hotel I noticed that no one else wore their seatbelt. I couldn't help but to be struck by the irony.
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:30 AM   #13 (permalink)
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After 3407, when deadheading on planes, I tend to have a little more anxiety due to lack of control. Anyone else have this?
I just had my first anxiety attack a while back. I was on an airbus(scarebus?) down low, it started banking to the right and I would say at about 20 degrees it snapped in the opposite direction to the left. What made it kind of scary was the rate of roll, I even had to do a balance check with my foot because I was kind of seated crooked.
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:49 AM   #14 (permalink)
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It is all about control...I know it is much safer than driving to and from the airport, but I'm in the drivers seat and control my fate in the car.
Actually no you don't. You can be doing everything right, and some jackass feels like being a jackass and could slam into you. Nothing you can do about it.
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:56 AM   #15 (permalink)
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yeah we are all PROFESSIONAL pilots , just some are better than others!
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Old 08-31-2009, 12:27 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I try to always always meet the crew whether DH, Nonrev, or JSing. I like to know how they are doing before I ride. But with seat loads lately I am usualy in the JS with them up front complaining about work rules and pay with them lol
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Old 08-31-2009, 12:50 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I felt this way even before the Colgan accident. At least sitting up front you know exactly what it going on and are in control of the situation.
My thoughts exactly. It can be the bumpiest ride ever, but if I'm up front it doesn't bother me. If I'm just a passenger, I hate it.
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:04 PM   #18 (permalink)
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My wife would argue that ALL pilots have control issues, thats why they put up with so much just to sit in the pointy end....
Same here...... and it has not changed in the 26 years we have been together!!
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
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a deadhead to atl in a rj(700 or 900 can't remember) this one evening had me pretty worried seating in the back. on the base, the pf threw out the spoilers and flaps, fine he/she is trying to correct for something. but on final with thrust being somewhere around idle all the flaps came down and felt like we were going to stall pretty freaking soon. all of a sudden, the pf pushed the levers pretty far forward. we were flying this way almost to the threshold. for the life of me can't figure out if they forgot the spoilers were out or something i can't figure out.
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:14 PM   #20 (permalink)
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It amazes me how we've become a society of fear. It seems like everyone is scared of everything. Take your seat, relax, and enjoy your flight. I'm much more worried about catching a cold from another pax than what the guys/gals are doing up front.
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