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Old 09-04-2009, 08:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've heard the Republic 190's have 100 seats, but the company is deeming 1 seat unusable to make it conform to the Republic pilot contract. Is this true or is this a rumor?
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I've heard the Republic 190's have 100 seats, but the company is deeming 1 seat unusable to make it conform to the Republic pilot contract. Is this true or is this a rumor?

Why does this matter to anyone, ever?

Either way, they are flying airplanes that belong to a mainline carrier. I'm not saying that the repulic pilots are bad, its just their bosses. That airplane is simply to big to fly for those wages.
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I've heard the Republic 190's have 100 seats, but the company is deeming 1 seat unusable to make it conform to the Republic pilot contract. Is this true or is this a rumor?

Confirmed in two places... A Midwest pilot saw the airplane and a APC posting.


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You are right its not a code share. However that section is still being followed. No Midwest Pilot can fly on either the RW, CHQ, or S5 certificate untill there is a master seniority list. At the same time no current RAH pilot can fly on the Midwest certificate (not that there is expected to be any flying on that certificate). No one has stopped integration talks. Just because it hasnt happend overnight doest mean its not going on. And if you think that we are just going to ignore the fact that the 190's physically have 100 seats and let the company pay us the 77-99 seat pay rate then you have lost all common sense. The union is all ready talking to the company about this and there is a system set up for the airplane to be operated while the pay rate is negotiated with back pay for when the rate is setteled upon.

On a side note; this company is very different from most airlines. They are very tight lipped on any information. They have the union sign confidentiality statements and that contributes to the utter vaccum of information that comes from the crystal palace up there in IND.
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Confirmed by a Republic pilot as well...me.

Company is trying it to avoid problems. Grievance has already been filed. Carry on.
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I've heard the Republic 190's have 100 seats, but the company is deeming 1 seat unusable to make it conform to the Republic pilot contract. Is this true or is this a rumor?
I think this was established a while ago.
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I put on my future-seeing hat and saw that the new negotiated pay rates will still be absolute **** for flying a 100 seat airplane.
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I put on my future-seeing hat and saw that the new negotiated pay rates will still be absolute **** for flying a 100 seat airplane.
I agree with this statement. The reason why this worries me is because a judge almost always sides with the company no matter how black and white the grievance. When Bedford tries to put the Frontier pilots on the Republic list, he is going to try and change your 77-99 seat classification into a 77+ seat classification and bring Airbus pay to Republic levels. I am glad the union is grieving this, but why don't the pilots just not fly the 190? After all, you have no contract to fly an aircraft with that many seats.
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it starts the time that the company has to come up with agreed upon payrates. If they refuse to fly them, they are out of a job. They will be pay protected and retro paid once an agreed upon wage is determined. This is completely legal on both sides.
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save typing...

You guys are lucky the Midwest pilots didn't use that same line for the Midwest E170 flying. But TPG/BB wouldn't agree to that because they wanted to use Republic pilots to undermine our contract.

I mean... why would BB want to provide retirement funding, trip guarantees, and industry average pay rates. He has you guys.
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I agree with this statement. The reason why this worries me is because a judge almost always sides with the company no matter how black and white the grievance. When Bedford tries to put the Frontier pilots on the Republic list, he is going to try and change your 77-99 seat classification into a 77+ seat classification and bring Airbus pay to Republic levels. I am glad the union is grieving this, but why don't the pilots just not fly the 190? After all, you have no contract to fly an aircraft with that many seats.
Whats to stop Bedframe from taking Frontiers airbii orders and placing them on another certificate like CHQ or RAH. That will be fun to watch!
I'm sure the IBT will allow and negotiate industry leading wages.
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