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Old 09-20-2009, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy View Post
I would like to see your source for this statement. I assure you, aviation is MUCH safer today than it was during regulation.
KC10 FATboy,

I agree with you that statistically flying is safer today. In the context of pilot experience, knowledge, skills, and fatigue the industry is less safe. Your source is any pilot who has been a first person witness to the airline industry's steadily diminishing concern given to safety especially in the last decade.

Although I'm not a huge fan of more regulation, it is the only way of leveling the playing field so that airlines can compete at a safe level. They have proven that they are incapable of self-regulation. Airlines once understood that an investment in safety above and beyond that required by regulation was simply good business. In contrast; today's airlines are commanded by short-time get-rich-quick merger/acquisition experts who spend their time at the helm padding their severance packages. They can only hope for no accidents on their watch because they have diverted all the former safety related assets to keep their near-bankrupt airlines afloat.

Regulated technology is the true champion of our current good fortune. Today's safety statistics are primarily the result of GPS moving map displays, FMS, TCAS, GPWS, LLWAS, EFIS, EICAS, aircraft system redundanies, etc. and not the sudden miraculous increase in skills and knowledge of 200 hour "ticket factory" novices in the airline cockpit.

The safety statistics are in spite of the reduction in the airline industry's concern for safety since deregulation. Regulation of hiring practices, fatigue, training and the prevention of outsourced maintenance is required. Look at the type of accidents that are occurring today:

DCA09MA027

DCA05MA003

DCA03MA022

Take Care...

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Old 09-21-2009, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy View Post
I would like to see your source for this statement. I assure you, aviation is MUCH safer today than it was during regulation.
I would agree it is safer but the level of safety has little to do with deregulation, as I see it. More to do with advancing technology, better training, better equipment. Remember too.. safety is not created by policy as much as it is an on-going process by the PEOPLE doing the work. And if the PEOPLE are under duress, the product is under duress.

One can argue the environment has become more confrontational and that contracts have been drastically changed, if not gutted. Longer work days, more work days and more pressures are there.
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Old 09-21-2009, 06:28 AM
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Please go away.

You are a journalist first, and a pilot last. You defame our profession with your ill advised commentary on television. Anyone who aids you in dirtying our business anymore than the fringe media has thus far is no friend of the professional pilot.

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Please cite were Miles had 'defamed' the profession? I must have missed it. And who constitutes the 'fringe media'?

And yes, there are some out there with little real experience. The recent McPaper and morning tv shows' assault on GenAv prove some know zilch about what they speak or write. Dogs howling at the moon. But McPaper and the morning tv shows are hardly fringe.

Some, like Miles or John Cox and a few others really do go beyond the headlines.
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[quote=winglet;681684]KC10 FATboy,

I agree with you that statistically flying is safer today. In the context of pilot experience, knowledge, skills, and fatigue the industry is less safe. Your source is any pilot who has been a first person witness to the airline industry's steadily diminishing concern given to safety especially in the last decade.

Although I'm not a huge fan of more regulation, it is the only way of leveling the playing field so that airlines can compete at a safe level. They have proven that they are incapable of self-regulation. Airlines once understood that an investment in safety above and beyond that required by regulation was simply good business. In contrast; today's airlines are commanded by short-time get-rich-quick merger/acquisition experts who spend their time at the helm padding their severance packages. They can only hope for no accidents on their watch because they have diverted all the former safety related assets to keep their near-bankrupt airlines afloat.

Regulated technology is the true champion of our current good fortune. Today's safety statistics are primarily the result of GPS moving map displays, FMS, TCAS, GPWS, LLWAS, EFIS, EICAS, aircraft system redundanies, etc. and not the sudden miraculous increase in skills and knowledge of 200 hour "ticket factory" novices in the airline cockpit.

The safety statistics are in spite of the reduction in the airline industry's concern for safety since deregulation. Regulation of hiring practices, fatigue, training and the prevention of outsourced maintenance is required. Look at the type of accidents that are occurring today:

DCA09MA027

DCA05MA003

DCA03MA022

Take Care...

Very well said, I agree completly. Experience is something that went out the door with deregulation.
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