We were always cleaning them out they get full of grease and crap and dont energize properly, or at all.
And cant beat those -65's and -67 pratts on the 1900
Yeah we have the 67's man what an engine, like another guy said this is one bird that is definately overpowerd which is a GOOD thing...Love it Love it, but it sure can be quirky for Mx...lol
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Turbine Maule on floats..now thats a "Wet" Dream...
In sectors like Punta Cana to Cancun or Puerto Plata to Isla Margarita, I can assure that it got used
Touche' Compatriota....
But I gotta ask this to clarify. Did you mean "fully FUNTIONAL lavatories"?. I.E. I like FICTIONAL novels because they're interesting. So, If i'm going from PUJ to CUN, I'd like to have a FUNTIONAL lavatory for me to use.
Btw, How are you?. Hope all is well.
The Maintenance Manuals are full of errors (at least one fatal accidents list the manual as factors in the probable cause) and the systems are a weak at best. The printed circuit boards are a joke. Flaps have already been mentioned as well as the prop ground solenoid. The pressurization system is one of the worst I have seen. The landing gear warning horn is useless, they might as well have just made it go off all the time...... The EVA tubing is a joke. If you leave the props in feather while on the ground with engines running, the windows will melt out. It idles at an unbelievable high 67 to 72 % N1 to avoid ground resonance which makes it an absolute blast to taxi on slick surfaces. Best part, the props love to penetrate the fuselage in an incident or accident sequence. Do not sit in row 1 or 2!!!!! Of the 30 accidents listed in the database, the prop(s) penetrated the fuselage 6 times.
Oh yeah, they published an AD on the ailerons recently that had to be complied with but there was not enough parts for the operators to fix the issue. Beechcraft had to scramble and come up with an alternate means of compliance. Some aircraft had to sit on the ground for a week waiting for beechcraft to figure out what to do...
Beechcraft should have stayed out of the airline world.
I can't believe the Feds certified the airplane.
Edit ( If beechcraft would have spent a little more time addressing some of the issues described, they would have had a great airplane. But it seems rushed and not completely thought out. The -67 engines are great except for the high idle mentioned above.)
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Don't listen to the guy above, sounds like he's never actually flown the thing. Ground fine/beta and reverse are all available on the ground for taxi, saved my @ss a few times in the snow.
Props going into ground fine was a problem at my old airline until the Raytheon engineers were finally called in to teach the mechanics how to properly service that little solenoid. After that there were no further problems. Imagine that.
Overall great airplane, I have ~2000 hours in it. Pressurization system is a bit meager though. IIRC, at FL250 you had a 9,600ft cabin. Not sure if a corporate version is any better.
Don't listen to the guy above, sounds like he's never actually flown the thing. Ground fine/beta and reverse are all available on the ground for taxi, saved my @ss a few times in the snow.
Props going into ground fine was a problem at my old airline until the Raytheon engineers were finally called in to teach the mechanics how to properly service that little solenoid. After that there were no further problems. Imagine that.
Overall great airplane, I have ~2000 hours in it. Pressurization system is a bit meager though. IIRC, at FL250 you had a 9,600ft cabin. Not sure if a corporate version is any better.
Most common callout used in the 1900.......
"Guard the horn"...
man thats so true
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Don't listen to the guy above, sounds like he's never actually flown the thing.
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Ground fine/beta and reverse are all available on the ground for taxi, saved my @ss a few times in the snow.
Flew for over 2 years in the D. 2 years to long. Pleased to be out of it.
The airplane should handle well enough that the pilots shouldn't have to rely on reverse to save their bacon in the snow....(talking about the BE1900 not you Mike... I've been there as well....)
Well r1830 has a point... those are all issues with 1900s.
Actually come to think of it I can't believe the feds ever certified the 707, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, A300, A310, A319, A320, A330, A340, A380, Cessna 177, Cessna 210, Cessna 340, Cessna 402, Cessna 421A/B/C... the list goes on, frankly I can't believe any aircraft that had an AD (for that matter) ever being certified in the first place.
My old time favorite about this a/c, the relay (can't remember name) in the center of the hump, right above the spar, that controlled the flap position. That POS got stuck just about every week in the winter. Learned to do power on flare/landings early on 'cause it liked to fail in the air at flap 0 the most. Will never forget the first time it got stuck after landing while retracting the flaps. It stopped at 20, we pulled up, people get out, MX guy comes out with a long 2x4 and starts wailing at the hump. Suddenly you hear it click and the flaps retract. 0 flaps t/o and ldgs the rest of that day. What a great plane!.
At out stations as the FO I would have to go back and jump up and down on the hump in lieu of a mechanic with a 2x4. Good times! Never got to do it with pax, I would have loved to see their faces... or maybe not!
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