They've actually lowered their minimums. They were 1500TT 500 multi. In this current economic environment with so many pilots on the street, what does that tell you?
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The original poster asked a simple question. Why don't you put a sock in it and start your own GJ bashing thread?
Now back the topic.......
Thank you for trying Zapata. Now to answer the original question, GoJet is not hiring street captains. I went to a career fair in July to talk with jetBlue and GoJet was at the next table. I was curious so I asked the personnel chick about those captain minimums on the website. She told me GoJet was not hiring street captains, only FOs. As far as I know, their new aircraft deliveries are winding down, so I doubt things have improved since then on the hiring front.
I don't think you'll find too many willing to do that, since none of them understand what their company represents.
That is a gross oversimplification and presumption. You cannot, with ANY intellectual honesty stand behind such a ridiculous statement.
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Ok prove to me and everyone else here GoJet has good contract.
Glossing over with generalities aren't we? I don't know their contract/ HOwever, I do know that contracts aren't black and white, good or bad. There are many articles....probably some bad, some good. It is not up to you or I whether or not they're "good". It is up to the individual airlines' pilots that voted on it.
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You are missing the big point. It's about raising the bar and gaining industry leading contracts. There is nothing industry leading about their contract. The only thing the creation of GoJets and their seperate list has done is given Hulas the ability to whipsaw two pilot groups against each other when the new MRJs come.
How is either group supposed to get better QOL, pay, benefits, etc. with that hanging over their heads?
And ASA's is industry leading?
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There is a difference between an ASA and GoJet newhire, just look at the contracts. The ASA pilot costs more than the GoJet pilot, the ASA pilot is therefore less attractive to management at the majors looking to drive down costs by giving out RJs. If every group looks to beat each other's contracts then we all become less attractive to management and ultimately more jobs stay at the majors.
Nope, there's no difference between a GJ or an ASA pilot's level of professionalism or whether or not they're raising the bars. None.
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The TSA pilots wanted better rates to fly the CRJ-700s and they could have flown them on the GoJet certificate with out scope problems with American (RAH does it everyday) but Hulas managed to set up GoJet with a seperate seniority list and staff it with people willing to work for less. How can you not see that as a problem? It sets the same dangerous precedent that Freedom did, but at least Mesa was able to rein that in.
GJ pilots are on their way to...they voted in a union....certainly a step in the right direction
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The only thing similar between a newhire at ASA and a newhire at GoJet is the 1st year pay. What about 2nd year, 3rd year, etc. The ASA pilot also has better work rules too.
Incorrect. There are many, MANY more similarities.
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We have nothing near a mainline contract but our last contract was a small step in the right direction. The creation of GoJet was a step backwards and them having a crappy union and contract doesn't make up for it.
However, a union contract (no matter what your opinion) is a step in the right direction too.
To draw a distinction between you and a GJ pilot is talking out of both sides of your mouth.
I don't think 1000/200 hrs is low for a place like gojet. In '06-'07 it seemed like they were hiring guys with wet comm/multi's. As has been mentioned before, you never know if you'll be stuck at the regional you choose for a very long time. Might as well wait it out for a quality one (as quality as a regional can get). I think I would fly single pilot ifr in a piston twin before I would go to a place like that.
I doubt you would. Anyone that says they'd rather go elsewhere when their is no where else to go is not saying how they really feel. At least 99% of the folks out there don't really mean what you have said.
That is a gross oversimplification and presumption. You cannot, with ANY intellectual honesty stand behind such a ridiculous statement.
Glossing over with generalities (Yes I think you are) aren't we? I don't know their contract/ HOwever, I do know that contracts aren't black and white, good or bad. There are many articles....probably some bad, some good. It is not up to you or I whether or not they're "good". It is up to the individual airlines' pilots that voted on it. (So contracts are evaluated in a vacuum now? We all know they're compared to each other all the time)
And ASA's is industry leading? (Yes within the Regional industry I believe most would agree it is)
Nope, there's no difference between a GJ or an ASA pilot's level of professionalism or whether or not they're raising the bars.(except ASA pilots didn't willingly join a company created to circumvent the bargaining power of their brother's, not some over arching pilot brotherhood.... actually the guys they had previously been unionized with) None. (So yea, a bunch)
GJ pilots are on their way to...they voted in a union....certainly a step in the right direction (Keep in Mind neither ALPA nor Teamsters 747 would take them)
Incorrect. There are many, MANY more similarities. (ok, they fly CRJ's and they wear uniforms I guess they're the same)
However, a union contract (no matter what your opinion) is a step in the right direction too. (Not if your union doesn't enforce it)
To draw a distinction between you and a GJ pilot is talking out of both sides of your mouth.(You're nuts?)
I see your position as 737... do you work for United? Are you planning on going to Gojet or just defending others that have? If you really do fly a 737, that's either a major or cargo.... and if that's the case and you can't see the difference between ASA's contract and union compared to Gojet's Contract and union then I'm thinking you are certifiable. Just because a pilot group votes a contract in doesn't make it a good contract....
I really don't see a problem with working for gojet at this time and juncture (in the past it would have been different), and once and for all, gojet pilots are NOT scabs, if you think otherwise the dentist probably offers you a lollipop for being a good boy (or girl).
The most important thing you should remember is that if you're looking for good career advice, a public internet forum is the last place you'll find it.
If you wan't to see what real pilots think about the GJ situation take a look at the thread in the majors section where UAL furloughees are posting about GJ, for the most part they'll say that all this regional infighting is what you might expect from a child and that GJ is just another regional.
Speaking of which, I've been online (on APC) for a year now... wheres my raise?
I really don't see a problem with working for gojet at this time and juncture (in the past it would have been different), and once and for all, gojet pilots are NOT scabs, if you think otherwise the dentist probably offers you a lollipop for being a good boy (or girl).
The most important thing you should remember is that if you're looking for good career advice, a public internet forum is the last place you'll find it.
If you wan't to see what real pilots think about the GJ situation take a look at the thread in the majors section where UAL furloughees are posting about GJ, for the most part they'll say that all this regional infighting is what you might expect from a child and that GJ is just another regional.
Speaking of which, I've been online (on APC) for a year now... wheres my raise?
NOT SCABS??? you must have been living under a rock your entire life
NOT SCABS??? you must have been living under a rock your entire life
...and I thought this was a thread about GoJet hiring...hmm...musta' clicked wrong
And, even though I don't work for GoJet, they are NOT scabs. A scab crosses a PICKET LINE OF STRIKING WORKERS!!! I've been on strike and watched former friends cross the line and forever change my perception of them. (It's not fun)
okay, you can go back to trashing GJ now...and AirWillie will be posting in 3...2....1...
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