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Old 05-28-2012, 07:28 PM   #5951 (permalink)
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Without a doubt you have no idea how little PU time the LEC Reps actually get. You are free to debate the pickup OT/ don't pickup all you want, but you are plain wrong on the amount of time off they get to do union work.
can you please explain then how it works?
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:35 PM   #5952 (permalink)
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our UNION is corrupt, everyone needs to stand up against them now, start attending meetings and being an opposing voice, and running in elections!

Go check your bases N3D and see how much OT your union reps are picking up, and remember that they most likely had the other part of their month dropped for union work, while getting paid top dollar!

Just keep notes of who picks up OT and DO THEM NO FAVORS. FLY THE CONTRACT WITH THEM. DO NOT ALLOW EVEN THE SLIGHT MX ITEM TO GO ON THEIR GO HOME LEG WHILE FLYING OT.

Who told you that they have been picking up OT? Have you seen them pick up OT? My rep is a line flying CA.
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:00 AM   #5953 (permalink)
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Who told you that they have been picking up OT? Have you seen them pick up OT? My rep is a line flying CA.
When I was at Eagle, the highest percentage of pilots that picked up OT by status were line-holding captains.

Certain ALPA reps feathered their 95 hour nests with OT quite frequently too.
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:06 AM   #5954 (permalink)
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Who told you that they have been picking up OT? Have you seen them pick up OT? My rep is a line flying CA.
Go do N3D you can see everyone picking up OT, its labeled as OT.
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:21 AM   #5955 (permalink)
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Go do N3D you can see everyone picking up OT, its labeled as OT.
Not to defend them, but they might be working their vacation as OT. Nothing wrong with that. The contract allows it.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:17 AM   #5956 (permalink)
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Go do N3D you can see everyone picking up OT, its labeled as OT.

So, I'm supposed to check everyday to see if my reps pick up OT?
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:33 AM   #5957 (permalink)
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The bottom line is Eagle ALPA reps (especially the core cadre) are raking in huge $$$$. It's a great gig, especially when the pilots you represent don't demand that much from you. That's why those guys have been in their cushy jobs for 5-10 years (or more).................because it IS cushy !!!!

My bet says that aside from the fat expense account and the ability to tailor your schedule to get EXACTLY the days you want or need off, they're averaging about 120 hours pay per month. That's about $144,000/year @ topped out CRJ scale not including the freebies and expenses. It's no wonder they're fighting tooth and nail to keep their positions. If they were delivering for that bloated lifestyle that the PILOTS allow them, that would be one thing. Instead.....................well, you know what you've got. Anyone who supports this fiefdom is either a world-class sucker or part of their 'good 'ole boys club'. Most have been dumbed down to the point they don't care anymore which is why apathy rules and the few prosper wildly at the expense of the majority.

My condolences in advance but there IS a light at the end of the tunnel. As Eagle contracts to allow another to take up some of the flying, the kings will keep their thrones and palaces, but eventually with bulging wallets and bank accounts, they'll move on over to AA at the beginning of the wave and the poor surviving saps at Eagle will wallow in cesspool left behind. A least then, you'll be rid of them though.
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:52 AM   #5958 (permalink)
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I agree 100%, but for me, I'm just not a bean counter. Never have, mever will. I'll vote yes or no when the time comes. That's all I can do. I'm not gonna let my feelings for these folks affect the way I handle my business while i'm on duty. Knock on wood that i'm a DFW guy and don't have to deal with the ORD bs.

Like I said, that's just me. Fly safe, stay classy!
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I agree 100%, but for me, I'm just not a bean counter. Never have, mever will. I'll vote yes or no when the time comes. That's all I can do. I'm not gonna let my feelings for these folks affect the way I handle my business while i'm on duty. Knock on wood that i'm a DFW guy and don't have to deal with the ORD bs.

Like I said, that's just me. Fly safe, stay classy!
It's not an ORD problem. What's happening there is both a symptom and demonstration of the real problem and that is a core cadre in Euless that places its interests above the pilots.

You'll not likely have any vote in the future as that group apparently see's themselves as the paternalistic decision makers of Eagle pilots. The latest counter-proposal is likely smoke and mirrors and ultimately the landscape of your future will not be decided by you, but them.
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