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Old 02-02-2011, 02:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My class at a regional was cancelled due to furloughs a few years back and now I'm flying 135 on demand freight in jets. I'm about a year from upgrade here, but still wondering if it's worth the pay cut to get in with a regional so I can get the 121 time. Is it worth it to take the hit if my goal is the majors? Around the clock call outs in 60's technology is making regional jets look better and better. Thoughts from the other side?
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Old 02-02-2011, 02:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Michigan based??
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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As a 9-year regional FO (CAFO...downgraded Captain), I'd get that 1000 TPIC before I'd think about 121, providing you're close to upgrade.
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes MI based. Is the 121 time really important to the majors or is it not worth taking the fifty percent pay cut?
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Lots of 91/135 guys get hired just as well. Look at the hiring requirements at legacies...TPIC, 4-year degree, no requirement for 121 time that I can recall. I personally would value the TPIC you have an opportunity to acquire right now over the chance of getting on with a regional and stagnating in an FO slot with reserve, commuting, and the like. Get your PIC, ...then... consider jumping over for 121.
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Is it worth it to take the hit if my goal is the majors? Around the clock call outs in 60's technology is making regional jets look better and better. Thoughts from the other side?
What will you need to go to the majors without having to fly thousands and thousands of hours of RJ SIC time?? PIC. If your upgrade is within 2 years and you become an RJ FO you will set yourself back at least 2 years. Average upgrade at the regionals is 4 to 5 years.
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Old 02-03-2011, 10:16 AM   #7 (permalink)
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If you are correct and would be taking a 50% pay cut and are close to upgrading, I would say you had lost your mind if you go to a regional. Sure being on call sucks, and so does flying older aircraft, but you have to look at the big picture here. You are so much closer to CA than you would be if you moved to a regional. Now add to that, that you would likely be commuting (just a guess), have to be on reserve somewhere, be paid significantly less, at least tripling if not quadrupling your time to upgrade.. That TPIC time is your golden ticket, and if you went to a regional you would be stuck waiting even longer for it. Stay the course...Just my 0.02
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Do you guys believe part 91 corporate and 135 guys can make the jump to the majors given they have the minimums posted? 1500 TPIC, degree, ATP etc? I find 135 cargo and corpoate operations to be intruiging and a fun gig, but concerned that majors will want that 121 crm experience
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Old 02-03-2011, 10:49 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Right now im guessing you would be lucky to have them not throw your resume in the trash with just the bare mins.... There are waaaaaaay too many highly qualified pilots with 3-4-5 times the mins looking for work... You can sure try, but its an uphill battle...
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Are you crazy?

When did TPIC get the back seat to SIC time in at a regional?

Lets see.

1. Pay cut...50% is a lot, and whats your raise going to be if/when you upgrade to PIC at your current gig?

2. Very unpredictable, lets say you go to a 121 regional. What then several years of making less money, and only having the 'hope' that something will move upward.

3. my personal thought (which could mean nothing). I think in a few years, majors are going to be scrabbling left and right for 1000 pic of anything. But I could be wrong.

Good luck in your choicce, but I know what I would do in your situation.
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