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Old 04-26-2011, 09:19 AM
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Hahaha not funny. Yes I am selfish. I'll be the first to admit it. Everyone is selfish to some degree. I'd hate to see someone croak on final, God forbid an instrument approach or on takeoff. If pilots start dying in flight, passengers and congress won't like it. But on a more serious and valid point, motor and decision making skills start to go at that age. I think we need to be more concerned about the safety of everyone involved, not who will benefit career wise. But I still stand by what I said too. Go away.

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Old 04-26-2011, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PeezDog View Post
If pilots start dying in flight, passengers and congress won't like it.
Unfortunately, the last several cases of pilot death/incapacitation inflight have occured to pilots UNDER the age of 60. So, your point is invalid.

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But on a more serious and valid point, motor and decision making skills start to go at that age. I think we need to be more concerned about the safety of everyone involved, not who will benefit career wise. But I still stand by what I said too...
Actually, you can make the case that any degradation in motor skill is offset by experience. If you are really serious, are you prepared to undergo more extensive flight physicals and simulator evaluations yourself. Because, I assure you there are plenty of YOUNG pilots who couldn't pass increased inspection.

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Old 04-26-2011, 11:41 AM
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If there is any advice I can forward; in aviation expect the unexpected. Come up with the most implausable scenarios in your mind and you still won't even come close. If you had asked Midwest and Frontier pilots a few years ago if they'd be owned by RAH, they would have laughed.

The regional outlook for the next few years is tricky. The entire industry is so heavily affected by things totally out of their control. Fuel prices, terrorism, pandemics (think SARS), weather, economy, inflation, ect.. Any one of these will send the industry upside down.

If fuel prices continue to climb, expect 50 seaters to be unloaded. I'm guessing the majors would rather pay out penalties then hemorage money on economically poor aircraft. In today's market, it's all about efficiency.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:41 PM
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[mod edit: reference to deleted post] the change to age 65 was completely fouled up and never should have happened in the manner that it did. It probably hosed over 70% of the people in the industry while benefiting 5%.

Honestly, that fact that anyone wants to keep doing this until they are 65 or 70 should be grounds for denying a medical on the basis that they aren't lucid. If I could get the retirement program the railroads have I'd push for making the mandatory retirement age 45 - I have other things I'd like to do in life, put up with this crap if I didn't need to isn't one of them.

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Old 04-26-2011, 01:33 PM
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Why didn't they 'block the push' in 2007 for those same reasons then? I already traded five years of my career for you old ruins. I can't do ten. Go play golf.
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Old 04-26-2011, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter View Post
Unfortunately, the last several cases of pilot death/incapacitation inflight have occured to pilots UNDER the age of 60. So, your point is invalid.

???
Look at an actuarial table for death probabilities by age.
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Old 04-26-2011, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PeezDog View Post
God I don't get it. Why do these guys wanna fly until they're dead? Go fish or buy that boat you always wanted or something. Why in God's name would you want to fly until your 70? I for sure won't be one of those. Want to actually enjoy life for a while before I kick the bucket. Go away for Christ sake and get out of our seats. You had your time, now its our turn.
Being super senior, on long call reserve, flying maybe once per month, and drawing guarantee sounds pretty sweet to me.
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:10 PM
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Unfortunately for most of us who have 25-30 years left it is nowhere near outside realm of possibility that we will see age 70 happen. A 5 year setback was great, may as well double down and go for 10.
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Old 04-26-2011, 07:21 PM
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Alright. There are a few who seem to want to test the limits. I know that we can have a mature debate, but that some choose not to.

Needless to say, the thread will get closed should the current trend continue.
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Old 04-26-2011, 07:34 PM
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What will the airlines be like in 2014-2015, if fuel prices stay where they are at now? Will scope agreements change, and have anything to do will guys/gals retiring, and high fuel costs?
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