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Old 08-24-2015, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina View Post
It took my class 3 weeks to get in CASS. About 2 weeks for nonrev benefits.

Every weekend I'd commute home late Friday and come back first thing Sunday morning. It was a risk, but worst-case scenario, I could've driven to SLC if I couldn't have made the flights. As a new-hire, I don't think I'd risk commuting home from class unless I knew there was a fail-safe way to make it back for the 8:00 am Monday class...
CASS allows you to jumpseat correct and not just be flying reserve hoping for a seat? I was under the impression when you jumpseat you're supposed to be in uniform? maybe I just heard something about that completely wrong but can we jumpseat in our plain clothes?
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Old 08-24-2015, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBeardedPilot View Post
CASS allows you to jumpseat correct and not just be flying reserve hoping for a seat? I was under the impression when you jumpseat you're supposed to be in uniform? maybe I just heard something about that completely wrong but can we jumpseat in our plain clothes?
Yes, CASS allows you to ride in the actual jumpseat, with the permission of the captain. You don't have to be in uniform; business casual is acceptable. No jeans, no shorts, no sneakers, no T-shirts. And make sure you have your company ID visible, along with your airman certificate and medical. Some (not all) captains will ask to see your airman cert and medical. Make sure you read the ALPA guide to jumpseating.

Proper etiquette for jumpseating:
1. Show up early and list at the gate as a jumpseater. Some airlines require you to list in advance -- see the ALPA guide.

2. Introduce yourself to the crew and politely ask the captain for a ride. Have your credentials out and ready for inspection. Remember, it's his/her seat to authorize.

3. Stay out of the way during boarding. Some captains will ask you to come down to the cockpit before general boarding. Others will ask you to wait until the jetbridge is about to be pulled. Most of the time you won't actually see the CA until the gate agent has boarded everyone and lets you down the jetbridge into the airplane.

4. Carry minimum luggage. You don't want to be jamming up some cockpit with your camping equipment ;-)

5. Bring chocolates and snacks for the gate agent, FAs, and CA/ FO. It's amazing how far that – and a smile – will get you.

As for your other question, it's not "flying reserve", BTW. It's referred to as "non-revving." Until you are in CASS, your only nonrev option at the start is going to be on UAL, plus Delta if you 1) are on the CRJ and 2) pay for the Delta benefits, which are $100/yr IIRC. If you're on the ERJ, no Delta bennies for you.

And after a few times non-revving anywhere – especially on UAL and especially hub-to-hub – you will ask yourself why anyone, anywhere, considers this a 'benefit.' Not with load factors at 90% these days...
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Old 08-24-2015, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina View Post
Yes, CASS allows you to ride in the actual jumpseat, with the permission of the captain. You don't have to be in uniform; business casual is acceptable. No jeans, no shorts, no sneakers, no T-shirts. And make sure you have your company ID visible, along with your airman certificate and medical. Some (not all) captains will ask to see your airman cert and medical. Make sure you read the ALPA guide to jumpseating.

Proper etiquette for jumpseating:
1. Show up early and list at the gate as a jumpseater. Some airlines require you to list in advance -- see the ALPA guide.

2. Introduce yourself to the crew and politely ask the captain for a ride. Have your credentials out and ready for inspection. Remember, it's his/her seat to authorize.

3. Stay out of the way during boarding. Some captains will ask you to come down to the cockpit before general boarding. Others will ask you to wait until the jetbridge is about to be pulled. Most of the time you won't actually see the CA until the gate agent has boarded everyone and lets you down the jetbridge into the airplane.

4. Carry minimum luggage. You don't want to be jamming up some cockpit with your camping equipment ;-)

5. Bring chocolates and snacks for the gate agent, FAs, and CA/ FO. It's amazing how far that – and a smile – will get you.

As for your other question, it's not "flying reserve", BTW. It's referred to as "non-revving." Until you are in CASS, your only nonrev option at the start is going to be on UAL, plus Delta if you 1) are on the CRJ and 2) pay for the Delta benefits, which are $100/yr IIRC. If you're on the ERJ, no Delta bennies for you.

And after a few times non-revving anywhere – especially on UAL and especially hub-to-hub – you will ask yourself why anyone, anywhere, considers this a 'benefit.' Not with load factors at 90% these days...
Good write up! Thanks for taking the time to educate the newbies (me being one) and giving good advice!
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Old 08-24-2015, 10:06 PM
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Hi. Im overseas and am considering going home to fly for Skywest. What is the upgrade time like for either CRJ MSP or EMB in ORD for someone with previous 121 exp? Do you get to choose the plane in new hire class or are you at their mercy? Thank you for your infos.
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Old 08-25-2015, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by WaterRooster View Post
Most Junior:
FO in MSP
2 months

FO in ORD
3 months
1 month - 175
FO in COS
3 months

FO in FAT
3 months

FO in DEN
4 months
1 year 1 month - 175
FO in SFO
5 months
5 months - 175
FO in IAH
5 months

FO in PSP
5 months

FO in PDX
5 months
3 months - 175
FO in SLC
6 months

FO in LAX
6 months

FO in PHX
7 months

FO in SEA
8 months
3 months - 175

Upgrade to Captain
3 years 9 months
4 years - 175
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Old 08-25-2015, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by AsianSensastion View Post
Hi. Im overseas and am considering going home to fly for Skywest. What is the upgrade time like for either CRJ MSP or EMB in ORD for someone with previous 121 exp? Do you get to choose the plane in new hire class or are you at their mercy? Thank you for your infos.
There saying 2.5 year upgrades by winter... MSP/ORD are the most jr bases for CA's and FO's
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Old 08-25-2015, 05:17 AM
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Does anybody know why they give out study guides/gouges for the crj training but not for the erj? Just feels weird not having something to study before class.
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Old 08-25-2015, 05:34 AM
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I'm not real good at math but, wouldn't a 2.5 year upgrade require skywest hiring 60 a month for 2.5 years. What's the average class size been for the last 2 years?
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Old 08-25-2015, 05:44 AM
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I'm not real good at math but, wouldn't a 2.5 year upgrade require skywest hiring 60 a month for 2.5 years. What's the average class size been for the last 2 years?
2.5 years will be a reality, but it will be into reserve, and anyone who has done reserve at SKYW for mor than a few months will do anything to avoid it again, including upgrade. It will have you wanting to gnaw a limb off to get away, including downgrade.
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Old 08-25-2015, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom View Post
2.5 years will be a reality, but it will be into reserve, and anyone who has done reserve at SKYW for mor than a few months will do anything to avoid it again, including upgrade. It will have you wanting to gnaw a limb off to get away, including downgrade.
Wouldn't agree if it's reserve and you live in base... Commuting to reserve yes...
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