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Old 04-24-2014, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by kfahmi View Post
What's the word around the Bro community at OO? If CIC goes, that's 3 whole destinations gone from an already-small SFO Bro base. Everyone's told me to take the Bro (I live in Oakland, just a 30-minute drive from SFO) instead of commuting to the jet in MSP or wherever (which makes perfect sense for about a zillion reasons), but I gotta admit that the reduction in Bro flying makes me a bit hesitant to join a shrinking fleet...
Just pick the CRJ and get it over with.
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by kfahmi View Post
What's the word around the Bro community at OO? If CIC goes, that's 3 whole destinations gone from an already-small SFO Bro base. Everyone's told me to take the Bro (I live in Oakland, just a 30-minute drive from SFO) instead of commuting to the jet in MSP or wherever (which makes perfect sense for about a zillion reasons), but I gotta admit that the reduction in Bro flying makes me a bit hesitant to join a shrinking fleet...
Staffing looks like it could be pretty tight with the ERJs coming onboard, the Brasilia is profitable though so I don't know if solving staffing issues by eliminating the Brasilia would be a route they take.
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by kfahmi View Post
What's the word around the Bro community at OO? If CIC goes, that's 3 whole destinations gone from an already-small SFO Bro base. Everyone's told me to take the Bro (I live in Oakland, just a 30-minute drive from SFO) instead of commuting to the jet in MSP or wherever (which makes perfect sense for about a zillion reasons), but I gotta admit that the reduction in Bro flying makes me a bit hesitant to join a shrinking fleet...
You're within 2 hours of SFO living there so even if the Bro does shrink and you end up on reserve for a long time you'll still be sitting at home on reserve. I'd even argue that it shrinking could be beneficial to you living in base on reserve. I was on reserve in FAT when the base started shrinking and moving flying over to SFO and I went almost 3 full months without flying a single flight. I almost had to go back to sim for landings.

Even if they fully close SFO and force you to commute to LAX which probably won't happen during your two year seatlock that would be a better commute from OAK than MSP or ORD. I'd rather sit at home getting paid than commute to MSP and sit in a crashpad not getting paid personally.
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13 View Post
You're within 2 hours of SFO living there so even if the Bro does shrink and you end up on reserve for a long time you'll still be sitting at home on reserve. I'd even argue that it shrinking could be beneficial to you living in base on reserve. I was on reserve in FAT when the base started shrinking and moving flying over to SFO and I went almost 3 full months without flying a single flight. I almost had to go back to sim for landings.

Even if they fully close SFO and force you to commute to LAX which probably won't happen during your two year seatlock that would be a better commute from OAK than MSP or ORD. I'd rather sit at home getting paid than commute to MSP and sit in a crashpad not getting paid personally.
Thank you sir, those are great points! Didn't really look at it that way. Just don't want to get furloughed as a result of fleet shrinkage, but since OO has never furloughed a pilot, that's probably a silly concern on my part.
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Old 04-24-2014, 01:33 PM
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Good info guys. Thanks.

I'm new to the commercial flying game as a military guy. I definitely have more questions than answers at this point.

I've got interviews with Horizon and Sky West lined up and obviously want to make the choice that is best for my QOL.
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Old 04-24-2014, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kfahmi View Post
Thank you sir, those are great points! Didn't really look at it that way. Just don't want to get furloughed as a result of fleet shrinkage, but since OO has never furloughed a pilot, that's probably a silly concern on my part.
OO has never furloughed a pilot, and right now with everything being short staffed no one is going to furlough. If they shrink the Brasilia it won't be because they want to shrink the Brasilia (they're profitable). It will be because they don't have enough pilots to staff the CRJ or E175 flying and they want Brasilia pilots to move over there.

If they close SFO in order to staff the CRJ they would almost certainly release seat locks to let people transition over. I don't think you'd have anything to worry about. If you live in OAK you definitely want SFO on the Brasilia for QOL.
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Old 04-24-2014, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kfahmi View Post
What's the word around the Bro community at OO? If CIC goes, that's 3 whole destinations gone from an already-small SFO Bro base. Everyone's told me to take the Bro (I live in Oakland, just a 30-minute drive from SFO) instead of commuting to the jet in MSP or wherever (which makes perfect sense for about a zillion reasons), but I gotta admit that the reduction in Bro flying makes me a bit hesitant to join a shrinking fleet...
Why not take the CRJ and go for SFO? My roommate for training just recently got awarded SFO and we've been online less than 2 months.
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Old 04-24-2014, 02:23 PM
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Why not take the CRJ and go for SFO? My roommate for training just recently got awarded SFO and we've been online less than 2 months.
That's rare. Even over 2 years I'd be within the bottom 3 in SFO on the CRJ.

If I lived in OAK or SFO I'd probably want the Brasilia because it pays more rather than spending 4 years on reserve on the CRJ.
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Old 04-24-2014, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13 View Post
If they close SFO in order to staff the CRJ they would almost certainly release seat locks to let people transition over. I don't think you'd have anything to worry about. If you live in OAK you definitely want SFO on the Brasilia for QOL.
Thank you sir
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Old 04-24-2014, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by kc10dude View Post
Good info guys. Thanks.

I'm new to the commercial flying game as a military guy. I definitely have more questions than answers at this point.

I've got interviews with Horizon and Sky West lined up and obviously want to make the choice that is best for my QOL.
I've worked at both PM if you want more details.
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