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Old 02-07-2014, 09:58 AM
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So, unless I missed it somewhere, when da vote be?
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Old 02-07-2014, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Temocil27 View Post
A prominent union official actually said if the LOA is not voted in, the company will shut down. I couldn't believe my ears! But, still vote how your heart feels boys and girls haha.
Bull$hit! If the Company is basing their bankruptcy decision on whether the LOA gets voted in or not, they're gonna file bankruptcy anyway then!!
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Old 02-07-2014, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by flightmedic01 View Post
Bull$hit! If the Company is basing their bankruptcy decision on whether the LOA gets voted in or not, they're gonna file bankruptcy anyway then!!
Remember, AMR had $4 Billion cash on hand when they filed Ch11. And Pinnacle voted in an "industry leading CBA" right before they went into Ch11. Stranger things have happened.
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Old 02-07-2014, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Temocil27 View Post
A prominent union official actually said if the LOA is not voted in, the company will shut down. I couldn't believe my ears! But, still vote how your heart feels boys and girls haha.
Scare tactics... plain and simple.


They know the LOA is lower than crap, so they are doing anything they can to get it to pass.


Would you expect not to be strong armed by the Teamsters?
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by flightmedic01 View Post
Don't fall for the "if you don't accept this, we're filing bankruptcy" crap!! Every airline threatens that at contract negotiations time. They jusy want see how close the vote is and how much to sweeten the deal. If its voted down by a small margin, like 55% No, then they only have to throw you a few little scraps. But if its voted down by like 95%, then you're sending management a clear message that the TA is horse crap.
That sounds like a threat or even intimidation, likely against the law (Railway Labor Act).
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:11 PM
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Bull$hit! If the Company is basing their bankruptcy decision on whether the LOA gets voted in or not, they're gonna file bankruptcy anyway then!!
I'd like to see how management plans to attract pilots? With or without this LOA. Let them try and implement the 20 consecutive rsv day now (current CBA) to see what will happen with the little bit of pilots left herr. We have them by the balls and they know it. Silver is in no position to give us an ultimatum, as another prominent union rep made it out to be. If scheduling can't figure out how to assign a 4 day trip on a rsv pilot then why should we have to bend? MM needs to create better lines instead of just pressing a magic button and letting the sabre system generate bs lines, or learn how to overlap rsv schedules, just a little thought into what she does will go a long way. Hmm, I wonder if Spirit is having this issue? Oh wait, Spirit is attracting pilots, my bad

It just amazes me that the company will blatantly try to put this 18 consecutive day rsv crap in, knowing very well that pilots are quiting left and right. Have they been paying attention to what's goingnon over at GLA? What improvement in QOL is 18 consecutive days away from home going to bring? Who freaking cares about going to Austria, Puerto Rico or BF Egypt on your days off, isn't that what vacation and trading is for?

I believe the writing is officially on the wall. This place is right behind GLA if they "management" don't get their crap together! I'd hate to see this place follow GLA, but I will never vote Yes to this crap!.
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:46 PM
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What is all of this about? They are offering you raises? What's the real story?
Short answer, no, no they are not.

Atlas QOL needs to = Atlas pay
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:32 PM
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Short answer, no, no they are not.

Atlas QOL needs to = Atlas pay
Oh, come on guys, it's a win-win for both parties
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:58 PM
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Big fat no!!!!
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