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Old 05-17-2012, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy View Post
As an Express guy, the only way I have been able to "list" before showing up at the gate is when I have gotten rolled from one flight to the next. Got to the gate for the next flight and new agent tells me I am already listed for the jumpseat. Looked at the list myself and sure enough, there I was. Apparently it depends on how the agent does it but sometimes the jumpseaters roll over with the other SAs. Could he/she have been rolled from the last flight of the night to next flight in the morning?

Only other thing I can think of is that jumpseater has a friend who is an agent and had them do a "favor".
Not sure, but all I know is that it was the first flight out of MCO to IAH and it was not the same jumpseat listing that you normally see for someone SA5X. I wish I had taken a picture of it, but since we all got on as non revs really didn't play out bad and we all got to work. Even if it was "rolled over" why should someone who say didn't get on the last flight the night before, get ahead of every other UAX jumpseater? If they checked it at the 2hr before departure, since its time of checkin for us at UAX on mainline, then it should be that, correct?? Like I said, the XJT CA was not listed the typical "SK" code for the jump and this was about 10-12 hrs before the flight the next day it showed up as.
Mostly it was just weird to see.

Now curious with you said about rolling over for jumpseaters, if flights were to leave say an hour apart and you didn't make the first flight, would you move down to the bottom of the list of the next flight or would you be fit into the jumpseat list with others listed? or would it be another code?
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:52 PM
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Not sure, but all I know is that it was the first flight out of MCO to IAH and it was not the same jumpseat listing that you normally see for someone SA5X. I wish I had taken a picture of it, but since we all got on as non revs really didn't play out bad and we all got to work. Even if it was "rolled over" why should someone who say didn't get on the last flight the night before, get ahead of every other UAX jumpseater? If they checked it at the 2hr before departure, since its time of checkin for us at UAX on mainline, then it should be that, correct?? Like I said, the XJT CA was not listed the typical "SK" code for the jump and this was about 10-12 hrs before the flight the next day it showed up as..
Mostly it was just weird to see.
I'm not saying its right just that thats what I have seen happen to me. I have no idea how you would resolve a dispute if it came to that and you both couldn't be adults about it or needed proof for invoking a commuter clause. Also no idea how anyone can change their travel class. Always thought that was coded into the listing software but maybe the agents have some control over it. Bottom line, there is no way I know of for an ExpressJet guy to list for a jumpseat without first talking to an agent.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:59 PM
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Now curious with you said about rolling over for jumpseaters, if flights were to leave say an hour apart and you didn't make the first flight, would you move down to the bottom of the list of the next flight or would you be fit into the jumpseat list with others listed? or would it be another code?
Not sure exactly. Had that exact situation this week trying to get to work and each time I got rolled it seemed like it just put me at the bottom, where I belonged. I kept loosing the JS to cal/ual guys which makes sense since SJs go above SKs regardless of time of check in. There weren't any other express or OAL jumpseaters there so I can't tell you how it would have played out.
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:07 PM
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I always thought SJs were cabin jumpseats and SK was cockpit jumpseats...
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy View Post
I'm not saying its right just that thats what I have seen happen to me. I have no idea how you would resolve a dispute if it came to that and you both couldn't be adults about it or needed proof for invoking a commuter clause. Also no idea how anyone can change their travel class. Always thought that was coded into the listing software but maybe the agents have some control over it. Bottom line, there is no way I know of for an ExpressJet guy to list for a jumpseat without first talking to an agent.
Cool thanks... yea with all this new non rev system I was more curious if there was a "jumpseating" trick on "SKYNET" since I have been asked a few times that I need to list prior to just showing up at the gate. Gotta love all the fun with commuting now...
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Cool thanks... yea with all this new non rev system I was more curious if there was a "jumpseating" trick on "SKYNET" since I have been asked a few times that I need to list prior to just showing up at the gate. Gotta love all the fun with commuting now...
It varies from agent to agent. Some are nice and happy to do it. Others would rather not be bothered and will let you know it (actually had an agent send me to the service center rather than list me the other day, if you can believe that). As a courtesy I always list as an SA on EmployeeRes and then for the jump when I get to the gate. Don't know if it makes things easier for them or not, just what I have always done.

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I always thought SJs were cabin jumpseats and SK was cockpit jumpseats...
Unless they changed things, SJs are mainline (LCAL or LUAL) employees and SKs are everone else. I think cabin jumpseaters show up as SJ2## and cockpit as SJ1##.
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It varies from agent to agent. Some are nice and happy to do it. Others would rather not be bothered and will let you know it (actually had an agent send me to the service center rather than list me the other day, if you can believe that). As a courtesy I always list as an SA on EmployeeRes and then for the jump when I get to the gate. Don't know if it makes things easier for them or not, just what I have always done.
Found out a new one the other day... I tried to get on a IAH-TPA flight that was delayed 4 hrs (11p departure). Anyway, since it was already 8p, skynet was not letting me make a reservation online. Confused I went to the service center and was told they can not CREATE a non rev listing, but since I had a listing the next morning they could change that. That just boggles my mind that if I had no access to a computer/smartphone, I wouldn't be able to list as a non rev. Makes me just shake my head and wish delta could sell travelnet to UA. If I really wanted to list as a jumpseater, I would have no issues creating a reservation, but why would I want to bump myself down 4 spots on the standby list.
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Wanted to add, I showed up today to jump seat on United back home, really wasn't sure what to expect (had rough experiences in the not-so-distance past) and was running really late, but had an great experience the whole way through! Gate agent was clearly frustrated at the system, but still worked with me and got me on with a few minutes to spare!

I know it's still hit and miss, but hopefully the problems will be resolved soon! Thanks to all of the United guys/gals who are trying to make it better for us commuters!
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Not sure, but all I know is that it was the first flight out of MCO to IAH and it was not the same jumpseat listing that you normally see for someone SA5X. I wish I had taken a picture of it, but since we all got on as non revs really didn't play out bad and we all got to work. Even if it was "rolled over" why should someone who say didn't get on the last flight the night before, get ahead of every other UAX jumpseater? If they checked it at the 2hr before departure, since its time of checkin for us at UAX on mainline, then it should be that, correct?? Like I said, the XJT CA was not listed the typical "SK" code for the jump and this was about 10-12 hrs before the flight the next day it showed up as.
Mostly it was just weird to see.

Now curious with you said about rolling over for jumpseaters, if flights were to leave say an hour apart and you didn't make the first flight, would you move down to the bottom of the list of the next flight or would you be fit into the jumpseat list with others listed? or would it be another code?
OAL pilots cannot list for a Jumpseat on United flights more than two hours before departure. Gate agent cannot even force it, computer just won't allow it to be ticketed as a SK listing. Potentially what you saw is the pilot is the spouse of a mainline employee. We have a number of pilots and flight attendants I. That boat. As such, they travel on their spouses pass classification which is above Express.
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Wanted to add, I showed up today to jump seat on United back home, really wasn't sure what to expect (had rough experiences in the not-so-distance past) and was running really late, but had an great experience the whole way through! Gate agent was clearly frustrated at the system, but still worked with me and got me on with a few minutes to spare!

I know it's still hit and miss, but hopefully the problems will be resolved soon! Thanks to all of the United guys/gals who are trying to make it better for us commuters!
Definitely hit or miss, but lately (for me anyway) has been trending towards more hits than misses. I know it has been a rough transition, especially for the L-UAL employees but as with anything, the longer they use the new system, the more comfortable and efficient they become with it. Still a few agents who are either unwilling or unable to learn the new way but they seem to be fewer and farther between. Seems like lately when I show up at a UAL gate for a jumpseat and say something apologetic about how I know it's a pain now the agents are always like "Oh no no, I got this...I know how to do this. I will impose my will on the SHARES!" and I usually end up with a positive result.
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