What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
04-21-2014, 11:34 AM
#5681
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Originally Posted by pilot66503
If there were a like button for this, I would be pressing it.
04-21-2014, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by air101
Also, Inc. is not interested in ridding itself of flying for Delta or United so whoever cast this scenario is mistaken. They don't have all those aircraft on order/options for no reason and they aren't all for AA.
04-21-2014, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Squawk87
It always makes me smile when mainline pilots complain about their regional feed.... Take all the flying back, problem solved!
The camel is in the tent and the mainline pilots are doing their damnedest to eliminate the RJ's. However, there will always be feeder flying. From the days of the non-aligned commuters before the express explosion in the late 80's to the current day agreements. There is a need for certain sectors flown with commuter pilots.
For those of you that think you are going to get a free pass to mainline just because the 50 seater is eliminated, don't hold your breath. The company can be very selective and your poor attitudes and work ethic will no doubt follow you to your interview.
In the meantime you guys should work on trying to run that rag-tag operation you call an airline as it falls apart. If you can't do the flying you have agreed to then someone at your company needs to say "uncle". The passengers don't deserve to be scheduled on your airline.
04-21-2014, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by air101
ExpressJet is no gem, but mainline United certainly isn't at the top of the pack. Unless you're talking about delayed flights and customer complaints. United is a mess as whole and trying to blame it on regional feed is absurd. How about y'all get your house in order before you start casting shade on other carriers.
I do hope United can recognize the failings of express jet, bring some flying back to the mainline and make sure we don't hire from express jet pilot group.
04-21-2014, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
Our house or passenger satisfaction is a direct correlation to the abysmal express product and the flying it performs. When express touches over half the passengers we carry the burden falls on them quite often.
I do hope United can recognize the failings of express jet, bring some flying back to the mainline and make sure we don't hire from express jet pilot group.
I do hope United can recognize the failings of express jet, bring some flying back to the mainline and make sure we don't hire from express jet pilot group.
And good luck with that last part
04-21-2014, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
Our house or passenger satisfaction is a direct correlation to the abysmal express product and the flying it performs. When express touches over half the passengers we carry the burden falls on them quite often.
I do hope United can recognize the failings of express jet, bring some flying back to the mainline and make sure we don't hire from express jet pilot group.
I do hope United can recognize the failings of express jet, bring some flying back to the mainline and make sure we don't hire from express jet pilot group.
04-21-2014, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Or they could just allow contracts to expire on the EMBs and gradually park them until L-XJT doesn't exist anymore. in case you haven't noticed, UAL isn't too happy right now.
04-21-2014, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
I agree we should not have allowed RJ's. In fact I still have a "RJ UA" sticker on the flight bag that sits in my office. My vote didn't out weigh all the others.
04-21-2014, 01:11 PM
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The most common thing I hear in Atlanta is "I wish we never bought XJT". It's time to cut them loose. They are like a cancerous tumor.
04-21-2014, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
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Originally Posted by Squawk87
It always makes me smile when mainline pilots complain about their regional feed.... Take all the flying back, problem solved!
Going to guess I have been in the industry longer than you. The choices and and how the RJ scope vote was presented to us and how it has been implemented are two different things. I agree we should not have allowed RJ's. In fact I still have a "RJ UA" sticker on the flight bag that sits in my office. My vote didn't out weigh all the others.
The camel is in the tent and the mainline pilots are doing their damnedest to eliminate the RJ's. However, there will always be feeder flying. From the days of the non-aligned commuters before the express explosion in the late 80's to the current day agreements. There is a need for certain sectors flown with commuter pilots.
For those of you that think you are going to get a free pass to mainline just because the 50 seater is eliminated, don't hold your breath. The company can be very selective and your poor attitudes and work ethic will no doubt follow you to your interview.
In the meantime you guys should work on trying to run that rag-tag operation you call an airline as it falls apart. If you can't do the flying you have agreed to then someone at your company needs to say "uncle". The passengers don't deserve to be scheduled on your airline.
Originally Posted by Squawk87
It always makes me smile when mainline pilots complain about their regional feed.... Take all the flying back, problem solved!
Going to guess I have been in the industry longer than you. The choices and and how the RJ scope vote was presented to us and how it has been implemented are two different things. I agree we should not have allowed RJ's. In fact I still have a "RJ UA" sticker on the flight bag that sits in my office. My vote didn't out weigh all the others.
The camel is in the tent and the mainline pilots are doing their damnedest to eliminate the RJ's. However, there will always be feeder flying. From the days of the non-aligned commuters before the express explosion in the late 80's to the current day agreements. There is a need for certain sectors flown with commuter pilots.
For those of you that think you are going to get a free pass to mainline just because the 50 seater is eliminated, don't hold your breath. The company can be very selective and your poor attitudes and work ethic will no doubt follow you to your interview.
In the meantime you guys should work on trying to run that rag-tag operation you call an airline as it falls apart. If you can't do the flying you have agreed to then someone at your company needs to say "uncle". The passengers don't deserve to be scheduled on your airline.
Originally Posted by Lambourne
Quote:
Originally Posted by air101
ExpressJet is no gem, but mainline United certainly isn't at the top of the pack. Unless you're talking about delayed flights and customer complaints. United is a mess as whole and trying to blame it on regional feed is absurd. How about y'all get your house in order before you start casting shade on other carriers.
Our house or passenger satisfaction is a direct correlation to the abysmal express product and the flying it performs. When express touches over half the passengers we carry the burden falls on them quite often.
I do hope United can recognize the failings of express jet, bring some flying back to the mainline and make sure we don't hire from express jet pilot group.
Originally Posted by air101
ExpressJet is no gem, but mainline United certainly isn't at the top of the pack. Unless you're talking about delayed flights and customer complaints. United is a mess as whole and trying to blame it on regional feed is absurd. How about y'all get your house in order before you start casting shade on other carriers.
Our house or passenger satisfaction is a direct correlation to the abysmal express product and the flying it performs. When express touches over half the passengers we carry the burden falls on them quite often.
I do hope United can recognize the failings of express jet, bring some flying back to the mainline and make sure we don't hire from express jet pilot group.
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