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Old 07-04-2013, 07:52 AM
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Is the grievance time frame dictated by ALPA National rules or is that a negotiated item between the MEC and the company?

*probably asked this question before and can't seem to recall the answer
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:34 AM
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Is the grievance time frame dictated by ALPA National rules or is that a negotiated item between the MEC and the company?

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The grievance process is governed by the RLA and sections 19, 20, and 21 of our contract. The decision of whether a grievance has merit or not, and whether to actually file it rests with the MEC. And their record on this ain't so good in the last few years.
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:46 AM
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The grievance process is governed by the RLA and sections 19, 20, and 21 of our contract. The decision of whether a grievance has merit or not, and whether to actually file it rests with the MEC. And their record on this ain't so good in the last few years.
I agree. I guess I just don't understand why the process takes so long. Thanks for the info.
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Old 07-04-2013, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ross9238 View Post
I agree. I guess I just don't understand why the process takes so long. Thanks for the info.
Our contract sections on discipline, grievances, and system board of adjustment are fairly industry standard under the RLA. The RLA mandates the "fly now grieve later" policy, which leaves the company free to violate the contract with little immediate penalty. Then the burden is on you (and the union) to bring a grievance, prove the contract was violated, and seek a remedy sometime at t later date. This industry standard process calls for an initial hearing (which the company and their lawyers drag out as long as possible... just because they can) and in this hearing the company says no violation was made 99% of the time. Then it goes to mediation, which takes months to schedule since there's only a handful of mediators in the country. Generally the union and the company meet quarterly to do this. 85% of the time, the company still insists no violation took place. The next step is an arbitration, which is almost exactly like a court session. It takes almost a year to schedule this because there are only about 8 arbitrators in the nation who hear these cases. Sometimes, it gets postponed further because an arbitrator has to cancel or a key witness isn't available.

This is why the process takes so long. It's designed this way because in all but disciplinary grievances, it favors management and the RLA's goal to keep planes flying.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:35 AM
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You guys at ASA/XJT will be wrapped around the axle until ALL 50 seat aircraft are parked in the desert. Period.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:50 AM
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Lots of red in ATL700 open time.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:57 AM
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Lots of red in ATL700 open time.
I say leave it where it lie. They forced this much open time by bloating the amount of reserves, now they can figure out how to cover it...
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Yea, I'm not touching it.
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:39 PM
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I say leave it where it lie. They forced this much open time by bloating the amount of reserves, now they can figure out how to cover it...
They'll just extend and junior assign line holders if the MOU 89 incentives aren't sufficient to get the time covered voluntarily. For a limited time only, reserve pilots can volunteer to fly below min days off! Yeah, I'll get right on that.
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It doesn't matter how we got here....
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