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Old 07-29-2013, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LifeStyler View Post


One more check box at a bunch of airlines... If "my" union comes back to me with excuses and buy-back, my answer is "bite my shiny metal a@@".

We have seen every stage of our careers degrade over the last decade, whilst listening to our ALPA reps make excuses for management. We have a few that are standing strong, but the majority know that they are more likely to get cushy mainline office jobs if they can convince us to swallow without choking. I am done! At the bottom of yet another regional ALPA list, and more than happy to be furloughed, as the benefits far out weigh quitting, and I am more likely to get a sit-down at a major's interview table. What we all need to remember is that for the F/Os who are the ones to get furloughed, it is really not that scary, since it just means getting to be with your kids every night, while working a minimum wage job that pays as much or more, with overtime. The lifers and the captains have something to lose, but we don't, and our new contract is likely to affect us for far longer than it will affect the senior folks. If Spirit, as an ULCC can pay what it does with the lifestyle it affords, "sure"ly our management team can find a way to make us profitable.

Full pay (and no lifestyle concessions) until the last day!

And for all of the different threads mentioning our ridiculously overstaffed management... +infinity!
^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:04 AM
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FOX News - Top Stories - Fast-Food Workers Demand Double Pay - Page 1 of 4

Fast-Food Workers Demand Double Pay


Don't expect to have it your way today at some fast-food restaurants across the country.

Workers at the nation's best known fast-food restaurants in seven cities across America are planning to walk off the job Monday to protest what they say are wages that are too low to live on.

The Washington Post reports that the protests will take place in New York City, Chicago, Detroit, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Kansas City, and Flint, Mich., involving workers at McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's and KFC. Some employees at stores including Dollar Tree, Macy's and Victoria's Secret are also expected to join the protesters in several cities.

The workers are calling for wages of $15 per hour, more than double New York's current minimum wage of $7.25.

A network of local community groups, clergy and unions, including the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), are backing the strike.

"SEIU members, like


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all service-sector workers, are worse off when large fast-food and retail companies are able to hold down wages and push benefit standards for working people," Mary Kay Henry, president of the Service Employees International Union, told the Washington Post.

In New York City, the protests were organized by a group called Fast Food Forward, which states its Twitter account: "No one can survive on $7.25."

"A lot of the workers are living in poverty, you know, not being able to afford to put food on the table or take the train to work," Fast Food Forward director Jonathan Westin told CBS New York. "The workers are striking over the fact that they can't continue to maintain their families on the wages they're being paid in the fast-food industry."

The group posted a photograph on its Twitter account early Monday depicting workers who have "walked out" in New York.

Fast-food workers in New York City earn an average salary of $11,000 annually.


Proof you may soon make less than your fast food counterparts
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:10 AM
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Not to point fingers because they both signed it, however the majority of the XJT MEC never had plans of retiring at XJT. The ASA MEC on the other hand (The impression I got) was they had a higher % of "lifers". It's just an observation on my part and I guess it doesn't mean all that much, but just something to think about
We have a much higher percentage of lifers. No question about it.
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:19 AM
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Absolutely not. Unfortunately I think the PBS thing is too little too late. If you guys actually got stuff done in a timely fashion you would have had more leverage to say no to concessions at this point because you would be 1 big airline, but the fighting and lack of jcba has made you guys a vulnerable target. It's going to be tough
Sure... if we just agreed to everything management demanded, we'd have had a TA in 3 days. They asked for 10 million dollars in concessions two years ago!

Either you're flamebaiting (and suck at it) or you're really not that bright. Either way, feel free to keep your "advice" to yourself. This isn't your fight anyhow.
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:29 AM
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FOX News - Top Stories - Fast-Food Workers Demand Double Pay - Page 1 of 4

Fast-Food Workers Demand Double Pay


Don't expect to have it your way today at some fast-food restaurants across the country.

Workers at the nation's best known fast-food restaurants in seven cities across America are planning to walk off the job Monday to protest what they say are wages that are too low to live on.

The Washington Post reports that the protests will take place in New York City, Chicago, Detroit, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Kansas City, and Flint, Mich., involving workers at McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's and KFC. Some employees at stores including Dollar Tree, Macy's and Victoria's Secret are also expected to join the protesters in several cities.

The workers are calling for wages of $15 per hour, more than double New York's current minimum wage of $7.25.

A network of local community groups, clergy and unions, including the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), are backing the strike.

"SEIU members, like


Next Page
Page 2
Fast-Food Workers Demand Double Pay
all service-sector workers, are worse off when large fast-food and retail companies are able to hold down wages and push benefit standards for working people," Mary Kay Henry, president of the Service Employees International Union, told the Washington Post.

In New York City, the protests were organized by a group called Fast Food Forward, which states its Twitter account: "No one can survive on $7.25."

"A lot of the workers are living in poverty, you know, not being able to afford to put food on the table or take the train to work," Fast Food Forward director Jonathan Westin told CBS New York. "The workers are striking over the fact that they can't continue to maintain their families on the wages they're being paid in the fast-food industry."

The group posted a photograph on its Twitter account early Monday depicting workers who have "walked out" in New York.

Fast-food workers in New York City earn an average salary of $11,000 annually.


Proof you may soon make less than your fast food counterparts
Good for them. Too bad we can't do that.... A few nights ago Colbert had a good segment about McDonald's budget website.....haha so funny
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga View Post
FOX News - Top Stories - Fast-Food Workers Demand Double Pay - Page 1 of 4

Fast-Food Workers Demand Double Pay


Don't expect to have it your way today at some fast-food restaurants across the country.

Workers at the nation's best known fast-food restaurants in seven cities across America are planning to walk off the job Monday to protest what they say are wages that are too low to live on.

The Washington Post reports that the protests will take place in New York City, Chicago, Detroit, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Kansas City, and Flint, Mich., involving workers at McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's and KFC. Some employees at stores including Dollar Tree, Macy's and Victoria's Secret are also expected to join the protesters in several cities.

The workers are calling for wages of $15 per hour, more than double New York's current minimum wage of $7.25.

A network of local community groups, clergy and unions, including the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), are backing the strike.

"SEIU members, like


Next Page
Page 2
Fast-Food Workers Demand Double Pay
all service-sector workers, are worse off when large fast-food and retail companies are able to hold down wages and push benefit standards for working people," Mary Kay Henry, president of the Service Employees International Union, told the Washington Post.

In New York City, the protests were organized by a group called Fast Food Forward, which states its Twitter account: "No one can survive on $7.25."

"A lot of the workers are living in poverty, you know, not being able to afford to put food on the table or take the train to work," Fast Food Forward director Jonathan Westin told CBS New York. "The workers are striking over the fact that they can't continue to maintain their families on the wages they're being paid in the fast-food industry."

The group posted a photograph on its Twitter account early Monday depicting workers who have "walked out" in New York.

Fast-food workers in New York City earn an average salary of $11,000 annually.


Proof you may soon make less than your fast food counterparts
They want $15/hr? That's about as much as a regional FA makes! :P
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:39 AM
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They want $15/hr? That's about as much as a regional FA makes! :P
That's actually equivalent to $34.66/hr in our profession.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:45 AM
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They want $15/hr?
They are probably asking for $15 so they can get at least $10. They most likely will get what they want since they are not tied in by the RLA.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:47 AM
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What percentage of the price of a Big Mac is the labor? 20%? I'll pay an extra 50 cents.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:10 AM
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What percentage of the price of a Big Mac is the labor? 20%? I'll pay an extra 50 cents.
You only need to look at the airline industry to see that most people will go out of their way to save 50 cents.

Add 50 cents to price, the Big Mac becomes more expensive than the Whopper, people stop buying the Big Mac in favor of the Whopper, McDonalds lay off workers who then get hired at Burger King at year one pay and end up earning less than they did at McDonalds.

Sound familiar?
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