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Old 08-21-2013, 04:33 AM
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Yes, I would make that sacrifice for the good of the regional industry because a combined TSA/Gojet/Compass/ASA/XJT pilot group would be good even with HK as CEO.

I also wouldn't want to work for our current CEO without an enforceable contract. After all, JA has an employment contract. Why shouldn't his pilots enjoy the same privilege he gives himself?
I must agree with JM here that if you think it would be worth working for Hulas or JO in order to get a combined list, you're a complete moron who hasn't looked at history, and is doomed to repeat it.
Keep in mind that merchant espouses the virtue of Skywest riding the industry of competition as good. A combination of five pilot groups would do more than what JA is trying to do with combining two union groups while leaving the non-union one to whipsaw us with.

Don't worry though, HK would never go for it anyways. It's just an idealogical position I have that I'm true and honest with. Its more of a thought exercise than anything else. I have more hope that we get one list here than with HK at his circus.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:37 AM
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Come on. Look what a cluster RAH is. Eagle gave up huge concessions and a 14 year contract to combine 4 and it got them nowhere. Pinnacle crashed and burned. We're next. Regional bargaining power is only a fantasy when you don't own the code and your name isn't on the tail. Bigger doesn't solve anything.
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:22 AM
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^... It was 16 year no strike contract at Eagle ;-(
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Old 08-21-2013, 01:52 PM
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Pinnacle crashed and burned.
Literally.
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Old 08-21-2013, 01:59 PM
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BH Update:
Last week we made the difficult decision to cancel the Best of the Best awards and other programs because of our current financial position and our struggle to become profitable. As you know, in the first quarter of 2013 ExpressJet posted a significant quarterly loss followed by a second quarter loss. High costs coupled with lower-than-expected performance lead to lower revenue and decreased incentives paid to us by our major partners, which means that we are continuing to lose money at a time we had planned to be in a much stronger financial position. Because of our financial position we have elected to curtail spending on programs that do not directly relate to the safety and/or operational performance of our airline. It is clear that a lot of work remains ahead to improve our performance and to become profitable.


Good! Now take that money you saved on these "feel good" programs and buy the maintenance department some damn parts so we can fix some planes. I'm tired of flying broken airplanes with a laundry list of MELs and sitting at outstations waiting on parts from ATL.
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It's similar to a fiddy.
slightly more buzz than a foedy
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:09 PM
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BH Update:
Last week we made the difficult decision to cancel the Best of the Best awards and other programs because of our current financial position and our struggle to become profitable. As you know, in the first quarter of 2013 ExpressJet posted a significant quarterly loss followed by a second quarter loss. High costs coupled with lower-than-expected performance lead to lower revenue and decreased incentives paid to us by our major partners, which means that we are continuing to lose money at a time we had planned to be in a much stronger financial position. Because of our financial position we have elected to curtail spending on programs that do not directly relate to the safety and/or operational performance of our airline. It is clear that a lot of work remains ahead to improve our performance and to become profitable.


Good! Now take that money you saved on these "feel good" programs and buy the maintenance department some damn parts so we can fix some planes. I'm tired of flying broken airplanes with a laundry list of MELs and sitting at outstations waiting on parts from ATL.
Thank god! Maybe they are starting to get the picture. A simple list of top performers recommended by peers is enough.

Now to cut away at Mini-indy, Acey days, etc..
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Old 08-21-2013, 05:45 PM
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Thank god! Maybe they are starting to get the picture. A simple list of top performers recommended by peers is enough.

Now to cut away at Mini-indy, Acey days, etc..
Whoa wait a second...

Didn't the Skywest CFO say the XJT side made money in the second quarter in the teleconference?!?!
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony View Post
Come on. Look what a cluster RAH is. Eagle gave up huge concessions and a 14 year contract to combine 4 and it got them nowhere. Pinnacle crashed and burned. We're next. Regional bargaining power is only a fantasy when you don't own the code and your name isn't on the tail. Bigger doesn't solve anything.
You think that having four different airlines being whipsawed by AA is good? Or Mesa and Freedom being whipsawed against each other as good? Or Republic, CHQ, and Shuttle America being whipsawed as good? I guess TSA, Gojet, and Compass are better off. Yeah, those who combined pilot lists had to sacrifice in order to do it. But we are all better off for it. If you don't believe that then you are the moron. Now, don't confuse what I said as saying that everything is all rosy at all those places.
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Old 08-22-2013, 03:35 AM
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Thank god! Maybe they are starting to get the picture. A simple list of top performers recommended by peers is enough.

Now to cut away at Mini-indy, Acey days, etc..
Still, to say that these employees were getting an award and then taking back part of it....a bit classless to me.

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Whoa wait a second...

Didn't the Skywest CFO say the XJT side made money in the second quarter in the teleconference?!?!
Also, wouldn't Brads recent raise more than cover all of the programs? Gotta wonder how much of this is a pony show for the negotiations.
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