What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
#4561
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How in the world could flying be transferred to SKW anyway? Where are the pilots to handle that? Scare tactics. Anybody read the news blurb on XJT.com this morning? Another scare tactic...
Im really hoping for the rumor that "if this TA gets voted down that management will just merge all three groups"
No Concessions!!!
#4562
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
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How would this go down down with Skywest being non-union... could they do at that point whatever they wanted... pay rate, integrate... however they seemed fit? Isn't Skywest also in negotiations? I would think this could be a good thing.
#4563
I'm hearing that management stormed in and told the MECs that if they didn't TA/ratify this agreement, 66 CRJ-200s/660 pilots are on the street. Apparently the entire ASA MEC cowered in fear but only 3 of the XJT reps voted yes. AIP reached. No paycuts, 1% raises, with no signing bonus (!). Everything previously discussed conceded on the XJT side, minor reserve improvements for ASA, and vacay low still exists, but only for 1 month, not both when vacation straddles months. IPs apparently get a large bump.
Apparently management also threatened to transfer flying to SkyWest. Again.
Apparently management also threatened to transfer flying to SkyWest. Again.
#4564
#4566
Well, either you heard incorrectly, your source made that up, or you made that up. There has been no votes yet. The MECs haven't seen the final language yet. There isn't anything to vote on yet
#4567
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How would this go down down with Skywest being non-union... could they do at that point whatever they wanted... pay rate, integrate... however they seemed fit? Isn't Skywest also in negotiations? I would think this could be a good thing.
Well, either you heard incorrectly, your source made that up, or you made that up. There has been no votes yet. The MECs haven't seen the final language yet. There isn't anything to vote on yet
#4568
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We got an email from both MEC chairmen saying they passed a resolution stating the they had an AIP. Resolutions require votes to pass.[/QUOTE]
Nevets, although we don't always see eye to eye you are completely correct. This email specified there would be a vote once the final language went out. Tony, I don't know if you are just misinformed or trying to flame up the pilots. Either way, the final language had to be worked out and they will be voting shortly. If... If, it passes the MECs then it will be distributed to the pilot group. I have said this before, and I mean it sincerely; please read the whole contract, make a decision based on what you think is right and what you think is wrong, but for gods sake don't open one section and say definitely yes or definitely no. If you are one of those guys then you are doing yourself, your colleagues, and future pilots a disservice. This isn't about one side or the other, we have to start thinking collectively and stop berating each other. Yes or No, we have to work together from this point forward.
Nevets, although we don't always see eye to eye you are completely correct. This email specified there would be a vote once the final language went out. Tony, I don't know if you are just misinformed or trying to flame up the pilots. Either way, the final language had to be worked out and they will be voting shortly. If... If, it passes the MECs then it will be distributed to the pilot group. I have said this before, and I mean it sincerely; please read the whole contract, make a decision based on what you think is right and what you think is wrong, but for gods sake don't open one section and say definitely yes or definitely no. If you are one of those guys then you are doing yourself, your colleagues, and future pilots a disservice. This isn't about one side or the other, we have to start thinking collectively and stop berating each other. Yes or No, we have to work together from this point forward.
#4569
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Nevets, although we don't always see eye to eye you are completely correct. This email specified there would be a vote once the final language went out. Tony, I don't know if you are just misinformed or trying to flame up the pilots. Either way, the final language had to be worked out and they will be voting shortly. If... If, it passes the MECs then it will be distributed to the pilot group. I have said this before, and I mean it sincerely; please read the whole contract, make a decision based on what you think is right and what you think is wrong, but for gods sake don't open one section and say definitely yes or definitely no. If you are one of those guys then you are doing yourself, your colleagues, and future pilots a disservice. This isn't about one side or the other, we have to start thinking collectively and stop berating each other. Yes or No, we have to work together from this point forward.
I'm gonna read the thing right up to the point of the first concession and that's where i'll stop and vote. NO!
Hell, if I'm gonna be any part of ALPA's grand schema of funding mainline contracts on our/my back. Sorry guys but you tuck and run i'm done.[/QUOTE]
No TA would ever get passed with that attitude. Sometimes you have to give up some scheduling perks for $. Its more about the overall plus vs minus. We shouldn't see pay go down though..
#4570
Exactly I'm not holding any reservations till I read it myself....All these guys screaming NO based on rumors is a bit childish... The bullsh*t stops when the TA drops!
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