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Old 03-19-2014, 02:30 PM
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Maybe the idea of not sitting reserve for well over a year and upgrading sometime this decade sound attractive to some ppl. I know, that's just crazy . They all suck for different reasons, pick your poison and what works for your situation and roll the dice.
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Old 03-19-2014, 02:36 PM
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Maybe the idea of not sitting reserve for well over a year and upgrading sometime this decade sound attractive to some ppl. I know, that's just crazy . They all suck for different reasons, pick your poison and what works for your situation and roll the dice.
Oh you mean the upgrade at Great Lakes that doesn't exist anymore. Upgrades require new FOs, staffing will soon halt any quick upgrades indefinitely at all those airlines

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Old 03-19-2014, 02:40 PM
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Maybe the idea of not sitting reserve for well over a year and upgrading sometime this decade sound attractive to some ppl. I know, that's just crazy . They all suck for different reasons, pick your poison and what works for your situation and roll the dice.
People are holding lines at XJT within 2 months out of the schoolhouse.
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Old 03-19-2014, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by motormadness View Post
People are holding lines at XJT within 2 months out of the schoolhouse.
Only in EWR! In any other base it will take anywhere from 6 to 12 months (except DEN and ORD)...
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Old 03-19-2014, 04:47 PM
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You do realize that some of us have spent upwards of 3 years on reserve. 6-12 months is not that bad considering everything.
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Old 03-19-2014, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by motormadness View Post
People are holding lines at XJT within 2 months out of the schoolhouse.
Then there is the risk you run of going to the 700 in ATL. Reserve at this time might actually be indefinite when you consider the shrinkage and zero attrition from the top.
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Old 03-19-2014, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ross9238 View Post
You do realize that some of us have spent upwards of 3 years on reserve. 6-12 months is not that bad considering everything.
I never said 6-12 months is bad or good. I just stated a fact, thats all. FYI some of my friends in other regionals get a line within 1-3 months out of training.
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You do realize that some of us have spent upwards of 3 years on reserve. 6-12 months is not that bad considering everything.
I never said 6-12 months is bad or good. I just stated a fact, thats all. FYI some of my friends in other regionals get a line within 1-3 months out of training.
They are probably at a smaller regional experiencing rapid growth. Smart move on their part.

One quick look at the XJT fleet plan over the next couple years and you quickly will notice an eye watering reduction of aircraft.

Good luck on getting a line, especially if you get placed on the CRJ side!
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Old 03-20-2014, 01:08 AM
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They are probably at a smaller regional experiencing rapid growth. Smart move on their part.

One quick look at the XJT fleet plan over the next couple years and you quickly will notice an eye watering reduction of aircraft.

Good luck on getting a line, especially if you get placed on the CRJ side!
So you're saying all the 175's that SkyWest, Inc. has purchased are going to SkyWest Airlines? Nothing to XJT? Could SkyWest, Inc. be following RAH's lead and planning to have XJT go the way of Chautauqua?

If this does happen, the only difference I see between XJT and Chautauqua is that the XJT pilots would NOT be reabsorbed somewhere at SkyWest like the Chautauqua pilots were at Republic and Shuttle. Do I have this correct?

Say what you want about Republic, but at least the Chautauqua pilots were placed elsewhere when RAH decided to shrink them.

Is there any saving grace for XJT at all here? Any rumors of Inc giving them bigger aircraft? Rumors of XJT pilots being reabsorbed in the SkyWest system? Anything to help the XJT pilots see a light at the end of the tunnel?
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So you're saying all the 175's that SkyWest, Inc. has purchased are going to SkyWest Airlines? Nothing to XJT? Could SkyWest, Inc. be following RAH's lead and planning to have XJT go the way of Chautauqua?

If this does happen, the only difference I see between XJT and Chautauqua is that the XJT pilots would NOT be reabsorbed somewhere at SkyWest like the Chautauqua pilots were at Republic and Shuttle. Do I have this correct?

Say what you want about Republic, but at least the Chautauqua pilots were placed elsewhere when RAH decided to shrink them.

Is there any saving grace for XJT at all here? Any rumors of Inc giving them bigger aircraft? Rumors of XJT pilots being reabsorbed in the SkyWest system? Anything to help the XJT pilots see a light at the end of the tunnel?
The short answer is no. XJT turned down their JCBA, there will be no good news until that is resolved. That's just how it works in the airline bargaining world. SkyWest approved their pay package making St George happy, they get the spoils. Good news is, anybody trying to grow right now or simply staff what they have is growing increasingly difficult as nobody can keep up with attrition.

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