New flying for G7?
06-16-2012, 07:14 AM
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I just finished INDOC at G7. So far I am very impressed. Nothing but positive to say. In a industry ripe with negativity, it's a very welcome relief. I have met most of the management group and they all seem very approachable and down-to-earth.
Yes, there's talk of new aircraft, new flying, short life on reserve and quick up-grades. No one has mentioned that there is a potential bankruptcy, losing of aircraft and furloughs. I am told, in fact, they are planning on hiring for the rest of year. Any one with over 4500TT and 1000 turbine can expect to upgrade VERY quickly.
There are guys and gals from all over in my hiring class. Pinnacle, Colgan, Comair, Air Wisconsin, PSA, MESA, American Eagle, lots of corporate, ATA, United, North American, Republic, Skyway and Midwest to name a few. A hand full of CFI's new to 121 and they all seem well prepared.
If you are considering G7, ignore the most of the posters on the G7 threads. Many of them have no first hand knowledge of GoJet.
Yes, there's talk of new aircraft, new flying, short life on reserve and quick up-grades. No one has mentioned that there is a potential bankruptcy, losing of aircraft and furloughs. I am told, in fact, they are planning on hiring for the rest of year. Any one with over 4500TT and 1000 turbine can expect to upgrade VERY quickly.
There are guys and gals from all over in my hiring class. Pinnacle, Colgan, Comair, Air Wisconsin, PSA, MESA, American Eagle, lots of corporate, ATA, United, North American, Republic, Skyway and Midwest to name a few. A hand full of CFI's new to 121 and they all seem well prepared.
If you are considering G7, ignore the most of the posters on the G7 threads. Many of them have no first hand knowledge of GoJet.
06-16-2012, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by pause
I worked there. Give it time. The Mgt folks will throw you under the bus quicker than you can say what the He** You'll see.
06-16-2012, 07:31 AM
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Gojet is the bentley of regionals. Good airplanes, great people....and growing.
It just amazes me that people think that quick upgrades and growth are good justifications for an alter-ego. The company was still formed to circumvent a collective bargaining agreement, and the effects are still being felt today. I've yet to meet a gojets pilot that walks around with their head up high, and their ID facing forward. Says something when the people that work there are so embarrassed, don't even get me started on the three occasions that guys have tried to sneak in the back with a Jumpseat form without having the decency to ask if it was ok with me!
And kids listen to this because this is important, gojets was created under such questionable circumstances that both ALPA and Teamsters (the aviation chapter) both rejected their petition for membership. It was the "taxi driver" chapter of the teamsters ironically enough that gave them an opportunity; the chapter that represents gojets is not the same as RAH, or any other airline. If that doesn't tell you anything I don't know what will!!!
There's a couple of their recruiters that post here about how great gojets is, nothing could be further from the truth. They hire the weak sheep, because that's what Hulas likes, pilots that say please "bend me over" time and time again.
06-16-2012, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by pause
I worked there. Give it time. The Mgt folks will throw you under the bus quicker than you can say what the He** You'll see.
06-16-2012, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by navigator
Here's news for you, most, if not all regionals were formed to circumvent the CBA's of the mainlines. How do YOU feel knowing that YOU have participated in that?
06-16-2012, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MachJ
Regionals were created to allow majors to outsource flying and lower costs. That cat's been out of the bag for decades now. Gojets was created to undercut another regional. There is a big difference; it is a new low.
06-16-2012, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MachJ
Regionals were created to allow majors to outsource flying and lower costs. That cat's been out of the bag for decades now. Gojets was created to undercut another regional. There is a big difference; it is a new low.
Why can the gojets guys tell the difference between voluntary outsourcing and alter-egos? Oh that's right the truth is rather inconvenient. This pseudo-scab mentality is the reason management continues to create airlines like freedom and gojets.
06-16-2012, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by goaround2000
So now, alter-egos are ok under the guise of capitalism? Are you ****ing serious? Using your logic, crossing a picket line is ok under capitalism! Wow, you are what's wrong with this industry.
Why can the gojets guys tell the difference between voluntary outsourcing and alter-egos? Oh that's right the truth is rather inconvenient. This pseudo-scab mentality is the reason management continues to create airlines like freedom and gojets.
Why can the gojets guys tell the difference between voluntary outsourcing and alter-egos? Oh that's right the truth is rather inconvenient. This pseudo-scab mentality is the reason management continues to create airlines like freedom and gojets.
06-16-2012, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by navigator
Here's news for you, most, if not all regionals were formed to circumvent the CBA's of the mainlines. How do YOU feel knowing that YOU have participated in that? I am happy to support any organized effort to get the majors to take back the flying from the regionals.
Originally Posted by MachJ
Regionals were created to allow mainline to outsource flying and lower costs. That cat's been out of the bag for decades now. Gojets was created to undercut another regional. There is a big difference; it is a new low.
Originally Posted by navigator
In America we call that Capitalism. Not perfect, but beats the alternatives.
06-16-2012, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by navigator
Here's news for you, most, if not all regionals were formed to circumvent the CBA's of the mainlines. How do YOU feel knowing that YOU have participated in that? I am happy to support any organized effort to get the majors to take back the flying from the regionals.
I was really hoping to get a job that had a 5 or 10 year upgrade, $20k training contract and at least a year on reserve, but I got a job at GoJet instead. What's really sad is that some pilots actually have to such low class as to make another fellow pilot feel like $&@% about the company they work for! And to deny a jumpseat so they can't get home to see their family! Huh? Despicable! Who needs to hang their head low?..
I was really hoping to get a job that had a 5 or 10 year upgrade, $20k training contract and at least a year on reserve, but I got a job at GoJet instead. What's really sad is that some pilots actually have to such low class as to make another fellow pilot feel like $&@% about the company they work for! And to deny a jumpseat so they can't get home to see their family! Huh? Despicable! Who needs to hang their head low?..
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