Originally Posted by DSRoss996
Republic pilot's request for release denied. You heard it here first. Expect an email from the union in the next day or so.
Originally Posted by zoooropa
This is an unfortunate reality for the guys flying the line at RAH. I have read a number of statements from the Local 357 appointed "leadership" including "you don't ask a question if you don't already know the answer".
They like this little gem. They say it over and over and over. When they are not saying it they are writing it and you can just hear the condescending tone dripping off the paper it was written on.
So, who thought they knew the NMB's answer? Was it the Local or the Airline Division?
You have a "president" that is more interested in getting himself a full-time job with the IBT than he will ever be in getting the rank and file a worthy CBA.
You guys deserve so much better.
Has anyone looked into the process for recalling these appointed leaders, or are you going to let this drag on another year, or two, or three?
The AA FA's were put on ice for over one year. That is more than one year without one meeting with the NMB mediators.
When is your next scheduled mediated session?
I have just loved hearing Moffatt say, at every opportunity over the last month, that 357 would NEVER have requested a "Pro-Offer" (I "think he meant proffer) of arbitration unless they KNEW the outcome of the request.
Some of CM's quotes:
"The Senior Mediator was convinced months ago that we were at an impasse, but it wasn't until the Company stated they needed more time for their Compensation counter proposal that the "Regular Mediator" became aware that there had arrived at an impasse."
"Dan S. talks to the Mediators and NNB regularly."
"There has NEVER been a time that the NMB went against the Mediator's recommendation"
‘There is a lot going on behind the scene by IBT National that will ensure that we ‘prevail.’ Single quotes representing it’s not a direct quote, I don’t think CM uses the word “prevail.”
I vote to fire the entire Negotiating Committee, including Wilder and recall our "appointed" President (there was no election so one can hardly say he was "elected") and ExCo.
Maybe this time around there will be more than 7 pilots out of our ~2,000, that might be willing to step up for the 7 positions.
CM has been blowing smoke up our bottoms long enough and don't forget he said on a conference call that "He had to take care of his MEA Brothers." Is that why IBT is paying MEA's legal expenses in the Bloch contract arbitration and all other legal matters?
IMO, the ExCo’s false statements (especially from CM), caused immense false expectations, borders on a DFR suit.
That's right, our dues and our two assessments are going to pilots that will displace us.
And, it's my understanding that we had 20 pilots show up at the Shareholder's meeting and 20 show up at LGA, picketed until it started drizzling and went home. Is that true? 40 pilots out of 2,000 participated?
It IS time for action, but I believe that change HAS to begin with dismissing those that led us to believe they actually knew what they were doing on the ExCo and the NC.
Dan S. and Wilder are such good buddies that it makes one wonder what the extent of their relationship is.
EVERYTHING the ExCo has told us has been proven to be misdirection, overly optimistic or an outright lie.
Originally Posted by BUDDHA
Thank you for you thorough, measured response to the situation. Kudos on being concise.
Originally Posted by LevelPar
My friend is back. Welcome back. The news this week was upsetting, but you my friend are disappointing. Quit with the "appointed" crap. If you would have run, then there would have been an "election".
If you would have shown up in NY, then there would have been 41 pilots there.
Easy to heckle from the cheap seats.
Maybe you should come have a beer with me sometime, we can talk about your problems. I can help.
What’s wrong with “appointed?” If I had ran then there would have been 8 candidates instead of 7, not a big difference in a pilot group of ~2,000. Did you run?
If I had gone to NYC there would have been .0205% of our pilots there instead of just .02%. It ain’t just ME, it’s the entire pilot group that has lost faith (rightfully so) in our “leadership” and has no desire to do anything but complain to others on line. Did you go to NYC?
Mofffatt the Prophet told us everything was under control and that we (357 & IBT National) were WAY ahead of the company in every aspect of the process. Now it’s a known fact that he knew nothing he was talking about.
When you think of this ExCo, always remember, “We wouldn’t have filed unless we were certain of the answer.” Then continue your thoughts of our leadership, Local and National, and how they are improving our QOL and pay.
FO’s could have had a “free” and greatly needed raise months ago, but the prophet said, He!! no, it’s all or nothing." Here we are with less than nothing.
How long will it be before we can make a pro-offer for arbitration again?
What did this immature, reactive and premature "request" cost us in time?
How much creditability did we lose with Management, the Mediators, the NMB, our fellow employees and, most of all, our pilot group?
“IF” we had hired professionals, they would have told the ExCo and the prophet to keep their mouths shut – Do NOT build false expectations.
Yeah, we may have TA’ed our previously perfect Scope (if it was SO perfect, why did we need to negotiate a new Scope clause?), but we may end up giving some of that back to gain something more important or relevant.
That’s why professionals don’t release information until the whole deal is done and ready for ratification.
I maintain my position that this Negotiating Committee (including Billy Wilder) and ExCo has failed us miserably and needs to be replaced, I don’t see how anyone could do a worse job for us.
One HAS to assume they did their best. And their best fell well short of the goal.
And we DO deserve better, MUCH better from IBT and RAH.