buddies8

wait, i need another double, you have to share these drugs with everyone.

lalo

This is why I love APC, all the useful information. Thanks guys.

prex8390

The closer and closer this big summer accouncement is "supposed" to come, the more I'm certain it will be that we don't have to carry the jepps anymore. Just figured I would save y'all the disappointment too.

CAirBear

That won't be it. MP even brought that up awhile back when I was talking to him about my Corp dilemma. He said it will be Q3/Q4 and it will only be when whatever it is is 100 signed for and legally binding. They will not be pulling Delta again. That was embarrassing.

He said there is a lot of opportunity out there, both for larger planes and even sticking with the 200s. Time will tell, but we do offer a good product.

My thoughts are this. Regionals as we know them are going away. Delta and United are already on record and planning for it, down the road. With that being said, they will hang onto this model for as long as physically possible. Despite how "expensive" we are, I have a hard time imagining any airline letting 700+ pilots go. We are still immensely cheaper than they can do it themselves. Also given how dismal hiring is going at both PSA and PDT (Envoy sounds slightly better with hiring) good luck.

If the AA WOs started hiring massive numbers, I could make an argument that they could, indeed, cover what we do now, but that's not the case. How many 145s is PDT supposed to be running in PHL now? A hell of a lot more than the 2 that I never see move off the gate.

billyho

Best thing that could happen is the regionals continue to shrink. As for American I hope they place another order for Group 1 planes with payrates negotiated by mainline pilots and then slowly absorb the WO's into the seniority list at the same time hiring American Airlines contract carrier pilots.
We shall see but many of the regionals will continue to shrink as all the Mainline folks continue retiring.

As for now I think AWAC lift is an asset for American in this environment and we'd be dumb to let them go away.

chrisreedrules

I really wouldn't worry about the AA lift you provide going anywhere. There is no way the WOs could cover any of it right now unless something major changes in the next 6 months.

PilotJ3

The rumor I heard is that AA will buy AWAC.

Then they will merge AWAC and PSA. Same deal will happen between Envoy and PDT.

AWAC/PSA will operate CRJs = around 2,000 pilots
ENY/PDT will operate E-145s and 175s. = around 2100/2200 pilots

Two regionals, about the same size.

sweetholyjesus

Boring.. I imagine the source of this "rumor" being the bright idea of some know-it-all line pilot that has no more idea what's going on than anyone else on the line? I know this is quintessential APC, but hearing the same crud over and over.....At least make up something new!

billyho

I flew with someone that seems to think American is going to downsize PHL due to a very low originating traffic from it's airport. Talking about shutting down a whole Concourse and reducing some international flights and doing more focus on JFK.
There will be Hub shake ups after FOS is implemented.

prex8390

I heard something like this too as well as increasing over time the traffic at PIT,