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#641
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#642
As for keeping the dust off the resume, that's great advice while no matter what company you fly for. Study hard for your ATP, and at AWAC and you'll do great. Get your time. Enjoy the trips and the crews you'll fly with. Then move on to greener pastures if you see fit. Life's too short to be bitter. Make the most of it!
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#644
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^^While I appreciate both side of a discussion, both positive and negative, I do not appreciate unnecessary comments that do not add to the conversation. You have said your opinion, no need to keep reminding us. This thread has been very productive and fair, lets keep it that way.
#645
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Cubanfiredawg has struck the right balance...AWAC is going to be one of your top regionals for working conditions and if you are looking for shangrila...regionals are going to disappoint.
I may be a junior AWAC pilot but I have 17 years as a professional pilot flying pax and this is one of the top two employers I have worked for. Just like all the rest, management at times is going to make you feel unappreciated, but thats why we have a union contract, so that they can't be totally arbitrary.
Keep the resume fresh and always look to move on...but don't get bitter because no one likes to fly with a grump.
I may be a junior AWAC pilot but I have 17 years as a professional pilot flying pax and this is one of the top two employers I have worked for. Just like all the rest, management at times is going to make you feel unappreciated, but thats why we have a union contract, so that they can't be totally arbitrary.
Keep the resume fresh and always look to move on...but don't get bitter because no one likes to fly with a grump.
#646
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Air Wisconsin
I can't bring myself to stoop to the childish level of that insult directed towards me.
I won't respond to personal attacks on a forum. If anyone has anything to say or know about me, they can ask in person.
Our airplanes break. Trust me, I'm sure other airlines' planes break. If a planes flies, sooner or later it will eventually break.
What I was trying to say is all the issues like maintenance, swaps, reserve, grueling schedules, not so good junior schedules and regular corporate stuff is at EVERY airline. The majors included. It comes with the territory.
It's what one makes of it. I won't tell anyone to apply or not to apply. I will only say do one's homework, make an informed decision and do what's best for oneself. Some schedules are not pleasant. That's the way it is. At EVERY airline, there are junior schedules that are not desirable. That's just part of the profession. If you've never worked at an airline,One of the most important values of any airline is seniority. This determines when and how many days off you can hold. What schedules you can hold, what vacation weeks and what seat or equipment you can hold as well as what pay to hold.
And whatever one decides, always have plan B. I've been through furloughs, shutdowns and loss of medical. It's wise to have backup plans.
Nobody has a crystal ball and Nostradamus has been dead for centuries.
I won't respond to personal attacks on a forum. If anyone has anything to say or know about me, they can ask in person.
Our airplanes break. Trust me, I'm sure other airlines' planes break. If a planes flies, sooner or later it will eventually break.
What I was trying to say is all the issues like maintenance, swaps, reserve, grueling schedules, not so good junior schedules and regular corporate stuff is at EVERY airline. The majors included. It comes with the territory.
It's what one makes of it. I won't tell anyone to apply or not to apply. I will only say do one's homework, make an informed decision and do what's best for oneself. Some schedules are not pleasant. That's the way it is. At EVERY airline, there are junior schedules that are not desirable. That's just part of the profession. If you've never worked at an airline,One of the most important values of any airline is seniority. This determines when and how many days off you can hold. What schedules you can hold, what vacation weeks and what seat or equipment you can hold as well as what pay to hold.
And whatever one decides, always have plan B. I've been through furloughs, shutdowns and loss of medical. It's wise to have backup plans.
Nobody has a crystal ball and Nostradamus has been dead for centuries.
#647
Actually, I do. Like I said. Been around the block. Lived in a few countries, worked for a few Airlines in those countries and here in the states. Each person is entitled to his or her opinions. I respect that.
I just wanted to share my AWAC experience. Hope to see you online soon PhlyingPhil!
Cool your Jets Junkyard. We're all in this together.
I just wanted to share my AWAC experience. Hope to see you online soon PhlyingPhil!
Cool your Jets Junkyard. We're all in this together.
#648
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For those thinking about AWAC, don't believe what you read from bitter lifers. I called out sick on probation. Not a word. I called out sick for three 4-day trips in a row once, not a word. I wrote in CSS (our scheduling program) once to approve the swap request OR I WOULD CALL IN SICK...denied...called in sick no problem (this was fall 2013).
The company goes after their problem children and is vindictive in that regard. I don't blame them. Keep that in mind! Don't do anything "funny" and do your job and do your best to show up on time. No one will ever bother you, and your job will never be in jeopardy. Missed commutes aren't a big deal as long as you play by the rules. The training there is excellent and the instructors have a ton of knowledge. Don't worry about 2015, or 2017, or 2018, the company will either be around or it won't. Would I go there over Eagle, XJT, SkyWest, etc. Heck yes. Besides the top 50 or so most everyone is motivated to bail and bail they are, lots of movement and it will only get better. I was hired on there when they dropped 20% of their aircraft (146's) and shed 200+ pilots for that and I still upgraded in 30 months.
The company goes after their problem children and is vindictive in that regard. I don't blame them. Keep that in mind! Don't do anything "funny" and do your job and do your best to show up on time. No one will ever bother you, and your job will never be in jeopardy. Missed commutes aren't a big deal as long as you play by the rules. The training there is excellent and the instructors have a ton of knowledge. Don't worry about 2015, or 2017, or 2018, the company will either be around or it won't. Would I go there over Eagle, XJT, SkyWest, etc. Heck yes. Besides the top 50 or so most everyone is motivated to bail and bail they are, lots of movement and it will only get better. I was hired on there when they dropped 20% of their aircraft (146's) and shed 200+ pilots for that and I still upgraded in 30 months.
#649
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Originally Posted by Junkyard Dog
Obviously you've never worked here.
Me
Actually, I do. Like I said. Been around the block. Lived in a few countries, worked for a few Airlines in those countries and here in the states. Each person is entitled to his or her opinions. I respect that.
I just wanted to share my AWAC experience. Hope to see you online soon PhlyingPhil!
Cool your Jets Junkyard. We're all in this together.
Originally Posted by Junkyard Dog
Obviously you've never worked here.
Me
Actually, I do. Like I said. Been around the block. Lived in a few countries, worked for a few Airlines in those countries and here in the states. Each person is entitled to his or her opinions. I respect that.
I just wanted to share my AWAC experience. Hope to see you online soon PhlyingPhil!
Cool your Jets Junkyard. We're all in this together.
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