CBreezy

Okay, enough. You are allowed to be critical of propaganda. The company can do whatever they like. It's a great PR move for both parties to show of their shiny new airplanes to suckers at certificate mills like ATP. It is, however, the only source of information some of these people are getting. There are no career counselors giving them other options. If you call ATP, they are going to tell you that it makes sense to be thrown into their half-baked program. They want your $60,000. They want you to come work for them for $8 an hour of flight time. They want you to think that the only way to fly the 175 is to give them your money and work for them.

The only way to combat this is through education and enlightenment. It is to allow other avenues for flight training; ones that will not put flight students in debt for the rest of their careers while working for below poverty wages while instructing and barely above as an airline pilot. Or, we could all just hop on the company bandwagon and praise both ATP and Mesa for all the great things they are doing for aviation. (Note: if Skywest, Compass, GoJet or Republic were doing this, I'd be saying the exact same thing. Quit thinking that I'm after Mesa).

sulkair

I know it delta! Sometimes I have to pinch myself You should see the look on guys' faces when I show up to class with a stack of cards ready made in a chick's handwriting. They start asking how?, why?... Does not compute! Then when I tell them my wife made them they just look at me speechless with deep admiration and sheepishly ask if she'll make some for them too. Yep - I think I'll keep her around

deltajuliet

Haha, that's fantastic. And it's incredibly nice to hear about a pilot who's made it work with this family. Too many guys reference divorce or joke about a third wife and it's discouraging for a young guy with a girlfriend/fiance/wife who wants that relationship to last. So thank you.

Fetzervalve

What's the mix of E175 vs CR9 slots for newhires these days?

deltajuliet

Based on what I've seen in the training department the last month, for every ~50 new hires, ~12 go to the ERJ. So maybe a dozen a month.

When you're hired, you can ask for the Embraer but you may wait longer for a class.

Fetzervalve

Thanks - what are the current and potential/rumored future E175 bases?

Moonwolf

Those pictures make me want to vomit.

deltajuliet

Houston is the only confirmed one. Some people think Chicago (ORD) might become one.

tinman1

Skywest and Envoy already are doing something similar through what is called a pipeline program. They are taking it a step beyond Mesa and offering flight and insurance benefits to those who successfully interview, keeping them on the hook until they hit ATP mins because "oh but you get this great deal while you wait to come here..."

If this doesn't fuel SJS then I don't know what does

prior121

I was in a OO jump last week and that's exactly what the FO told me they were doing...benefits.