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09-23-2014, 08:02 AM
#3121
sippin' dat koolaid
Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: gear slinger
Posts: 982
Originally Posted by ScottyDo
Thanks guys, I am really shocked I didn't get a troll comment somewhere in there lol.
There are no stupid questions for the new guys. Don't be afraid to speak up in class either. I asked some dumb questions in class, like "what is jumpseating" because I honestly didn't know. Good luck!
09-23-2014, 08:27 AM
#3122
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 89
Originally Posted by blaine
Can you please be more specific. How do new hires study the aircraft systems manuals and op specs in training? Are you saying we load huge PDF's on our tablet or something like that? I'm surprised to hear it's ALL electronic.
Not sure how others did it, but I put everything on my iPad so I wouldn't have to carry it around. A number of us shared a Dropbox folder with every imaginable piece of study material - presentations, study guides, checklists, flows, manuals, etc. It worked out well. You can scan to PDF at the printer in the training center.
09-23-2014, 09:05 AM
#3123
Living the Dream
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,795
Yep. My sim partner and I got kind of boned on that one, but in the scheme of things it doesn't seem like a big deal. So long as we don't miss a base award or upgrade by <20 spots...
09-23-2014, 12:02 PM
#3124
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Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 88
Theoretically speaking, when would I have to be hired/online before the quick upgrade goes away?
09-23-2014, 12:07 PM
#3125
Chief Engineer
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 815
Originally Posted by DaCat1989
Theoretically speaking, when would I have to be hired/online before the quick upgrade goes away?
I was just wondering the same thing, if anyone could shed some light on that, that would be great. But maybe it's one of those things that's just impossible to know.
09-23-2014, 12:24 PM
#3126
Living the Dream
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,795
It's one of those things that's just impossible to know. Educated guesses are possible though. The main problem is we don't know how much flying we'll get in the near future, the distant future, or if there will be another 9/11. Attrition rates aren't high now, and we can assume they'll pick up some, but people will argue how much and when.
I think people being hired the second half of 2014 will see an upgrade time of 1.5-3 years. It depends if we get more planes, and there have been rumors amounting to a net gain of ~50 in the next year. But rumors are rumors.
I don't know if the 1.5 year upgrade is sustainable, but I think 2.5 years could be.
I think people being hired the second half of 2014 will see an upgrade time of 1.5-3 years. It depends if we get more planes, and there have been rumors amounting to a net gain of ~50 in the next year. But rumors are rumors.
I don't know if the 1.5 year upgrade is sustainable, but I think 2.5 years could be.
09-23-2014, 12:29 PM
#3127
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: ERJ CA
Posts: 1,082
Originally Posted by blaine
Can you please be more specific. How do new hires study the aircraft systems manuals and op specs in training? Are you saying we load huge PDF's on our tablet or something like that? I'm surprised to hear it's ALL electronic.
09-23-2014, 01:08 PM
#3128
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 977
Originally Posted by deltajuliet
It's one of those things that's just impossible to know. Educated guesses are possible though. The main problem is we don't know how much flying we'll get in the near future, the distant future, or if there will be another 9/11. Attrition rates aren't high now, and we can assume they'll pick up some, but people will argue how much and when.
I think people being hired the second half of 2014 will see an upgrade time of 1.5-3 years. It depends if we get more planes, and there have been rumors amounting to a net gain of ~50 in the next year. But rumors are rumors.
I don't know if the 1.5 year upgrade is sustainable, but I think 2.5 years could be.
I think people being hired the second half of 2014 will see an upgrade time of 1.5-3 years. It depends if we get more planes, and there have been rumors amounting to a net gain of ~50 in the next year. But rumors are rumors.
I don't know if the 1.5 year upgrade is sustainable, but I think 2.5 years could be.
And always keep in mind that it is in management's best interest to paint the most optimistic light possible for new hires. New hires are the link between the street and the line, and are more likely to have contacts who are still finishing up flight school/college (high yield recruiting targets). It is imperative for management to convince people sitting in class that everything is wonderful and that everyone will upgrade.
09-23-2014, 01:30 PM
#3129
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 88
Interesting. As for the E-jet, are new hires being offered the embraer?
09-23-2014, 02:02 PM
#3130
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: ERJ CA
Posts: 1,082
Originally Posted by DaCat1989
Interesting. As for the E-jet, are new hires being offered the embraer?
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