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Old 11-13-2014, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rickshaw View Post
In training, the constant theme was how's orenstein / mesa going to find a way to F it all up like usual. Well this is a good start. They're losing around 10 total per month, mostly people saying screw this joke of a company. Good luck with CLT DFW hub to hub or IAD RJ flights. Impending collapse and they're too stupid to see it. Good luck and merry Christmas.
I don't get it. What's a good start? And how exactly does it indicate an impending collapse? For all Mesa's questionable actions, and the grief they sometimes cause, it's absurd to think Mesa's board is "too stupid" to understand the company's position. As far as I can tell, the company is plugging along just fine in the typical Mesa fashion.

This wasn't the theme at all when I was in training, and I'm pretty sure most of the same people are running the department. Are people now coming in preconditioned to hate Mesa?
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:27 AM
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In training, the constant theme was how's orenstein / mesa going to find a way to F it all up like usual. Well this is a good start. They're losing around 10 total per month, mostly people saying screw this joke of a company. Good luck with CLT DFW hub to hub or IAD RJ flights. Impending collapse and they're too stupid to see it. Good luck and merry Christmas.
I don't get it either. Yeah it's not perfect but Mesa isn't suffering an "impending collapse" that I've seen.

And how long were you at Mesa before you left and went to PSA? No offense, but just because you bailed doesn't mean the place is going to hell in a hand basket. The grass isn't always greener ya know...
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:02 AM
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Just had to vent. Mesa is just a barometer for the industry. The biggest risk is further scope erosion that allowed this to happen. Great people at Mesa for the most part.
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Old 11-13-2014, 12:17 PM
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So with the new upgrades, Mesa has about 105 E-Jet captains, and will need 40 to 50 more to finish staffing them - 150 captains for 30 aircraft. Is that about right?
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Old 11-13-2014, 12:19 PM
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10/month attrition is very little if you ask me.
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Old 11-13-2014, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rickshaw View Post
In training, the constant theme was how's orenstein / mesa going to find a way to F it all up like usual. Well this is a good start. They're losing around 10 total per month, mostly people saying screw this joke of a company. Good luck with CLT DFW hub to hub or IAD RJ flights. Impending collapse and they're too stupid to see it. Good luck and merry Christmas.

That was neither the thought when I was in class or with the guys I visited last week in class.

Put down the bottle and enjoy browwwwwwnstreak.
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Old 11-13-2014, 12:47 PM
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So with the new upgrades, Mesa has about 105 E-Jet captains, and will need 40 to 50 more to finish staffing them - 150 captains for 30 aircraft. Is that about right?
I'm thinking more than that, and according to mx staff, it's 35.
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There have only been 30 E175s announced for Mesa, of which 2 are planned as spares. 150 in each seat is 5 crews per aircraft which for Mesa is pretty high, historically, so I doubt it'll be more than that. They may only staff for 28 as well since the other 2 are spares.


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Old 11-13-2014, 02:48 PM
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It's funny you guys think after these 30 EJETs that's it.

Just wait.
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It's funny you guys think after these 30 EJETs that's it.

Just wait.

Isn't United scoped out on RJs at the moment?
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