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Old 12-02-2014, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wt932051 View Post
Sorry, I mean't RS4 goes Senior, not Junior. They have RS4 in CLT, and I think PHX. It varies from 1-4 guys in CLT on RS4. Lately just one. Also, in the Airways system they always have guys sitting ready reserve on the RS1 and RS3 shifts. Almost never do you get to sit at home. I heard it is rare to sit Ready in IAD in the United system. Lucky ducks... Probably a contract thing that Airways has requiring this...just a guess.
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Which is why they don't have a lot of rr in the united system, because they want to be able to USE you if they need for an actual trip. Most of the airways trips are just turns.
On FLICA, RS1 or RS3 indicate normal reserve with a 90 minute callout, correct? How would ready reserve be indicated differently?

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Ready reserve is indicated by a trip assignment with a pairing number. When you open the pairing it says R06, R08 or R10.
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Old 12-03-2014, 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet View Post
On FLICA, RS1 or RS3 indicate normal reserve with a 90 minute callout, correct? How would ready reserve be indicated differently?
It's in LOA #4. Ready reserve is coded r8,10 or 12 and is not to exceed 12. The "r" number denotes hours on duty, and pays half flight credit until flying is assigned. They have been using r6 for the night shift in some bases, and avoid using r12 because it gives away a lot of credit for hours that they probably wouldn't use you.
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Old 12-03-2014, 06:30 AM
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Much appreciated. There was a discrepancy on my schedule that suggested ready reserve but it was still "RS3," that clears it up.

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Ha, no. I'm not going to stick up for anyone. Lots of you guys have been here a long time and that crap wears on you.

Just like skillet said, "The **** stinks everywhere." (all regionals) However, I still say this place is better than RAH.

As far as new 117 schedules go, I think everyone (RAH, 9E, OO, etc) is complaining. Is the company just screwing people over with implementing the new rules into the schedules? Or is this the best they can do with the new rules? I really don't know. Also, doesn't the union make the schedules with the company? Atleast that is how I thought they did it here.

The company has been pretty what I would consider, "unorthodox" with EJET program information. I flew with a guy the other day who just upgraded this last summer and will be going to the EJET as a Checkairman. He pestered them and pestered them, never really getting confirmation that he was a part of it other than the STL training notification from the training dept and his February vacation cancelled.

In regards to the whole putting guys on ready (airport, hot, whatever your airline calls it) reserve when they finish flying, I know after talking to the company, their response is "we are waiting for interpretation from the FAA." From an operational standpoint, as soon as they use a reserve, they can no longer return them to "normal, regular, home" (whatever you want to call it) reserve that day, so to keep them useful they are trying to pull this putting them on ready thing. They say it keeps you in the same FDP. I guess when the FAA says, "No that's not legal", they're guessing they'll get some sort of leeway with violations since 117 is new and vague to everyone.

ALPA's stance is they are also waiting for interpretation from the FAA and to fill out a grievance and an ASAP.
This is unrelated to the above question, but was there ever a letter of interpretation released?
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It got resolved when the FAA said your duty period doesn't end on reserve until the company says they have no more plans for you. That's why you now see FDP on the end. Original interpretation was when you finished your assigned trip on reserve you were done. Then they stated added the Ready because that is part of an FDP.
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Originally Posted by Sennant View Post
It got resolved when the FAA said your duty period doesn't end on reserve until the company says they have no more plans for you. That's why you now see FDP on the end. Original interpretation was when you finished your assigned trip on reserve you were done. Then they stated added the Ready because that is part of an FDP.
Except "fdp" isn't ready reserve. It's non specific duty assigned for the amount of hours you are still good for on your fdp clock with a 90 minute callout.

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Except "fdp" is t ready reserve. It's non specific duty assigned for the amount of hours you are still good for on your fdp clock with a 90 minute callout.
So lets say i'm done with a trip, but have 30 minutes of FDP left, they can technically call you during that time and you would be expected to be back at the airport within 90 minutes to do a flight?
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So lets say i'm done with a trip, but have 30 minutes of FDP left, they can technically call you during that time and you would be expected to be back at the airport within 90 minutes to do a flight?
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Except "fdp" isn't ready reserve. It's non specific duty assigned for the amount of hours you are still good for on your fdp clock with a 90 minute callout.
Correct. If it read that way in my statement. Sorry for the confusion.
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yeah EJET went way senior vs the last bid, only 4 of the 10 are 2013 hires.

Lots of guys must have been holding out until after the holidays and/or wanted to go straight into holding a line.

Funny I see JM on the award, thought they weren't letting him upgrade.

Not to air out our dirty laundry but that guy is missing a few screws.

Tells me he's a captain as he's sitting in the crew room in an FO's uniform, heard he's been known to tell other people he's an undercover agent for the FBI.
If the senior pilots were holding out for the January class date (to avoid training over the holidays), then I would think on the next award it should go even more junior.
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