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Old 02-07-2015, 08:28 AM
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I'm hearing no more 175s after the initial 30 due to scope.
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Old 02-07-2015, 08:35 AM
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Is Mesa still paying $22/hour first year pay along with a 12-month training contract and $1.30 per diem?
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Old 02-07-2015, 09:46 AM
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Is Mesa still paying $22/hour first year pay along with a 12-month training contract and $1.30 per diem?
Yes but it's 1.44 or something now
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Old 02-07-2015, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter View Post
Total Crap.

I don't know much about Riddle, but know that the DPE's ATP uses are hand picked (at busy locations these guys are getting $1000-1200 A DAY, cash) and are deathly afraid of ****ing off management. So they Santa claus all the ATP students and go bust the FBO guys to keep the FSDO happy.
You don't think this happens at 141 schools lmfao
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:36 PM
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Yes but it's 1.44 or something now
Is there anything attractive about their contract that would make anyone want to apply there at those rates and conditions besides the shiny E-175?
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Old 02-07-2015, 01:07 PM
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Are you a better pilot because your parents/grandparents bought you a degree from ERAU? I'd rather sit next to a guy who has built up his flight time in real world flying in many different airplanes and in different conditions.
Are there good pilots from a 4 year degree program? Yes, I'm sure there are. But, what I've seen are lazy SJS wanna be's still living off their parents while pursuing their life long dream at 21 years old R-ATP morons that can't fly a cross wind landing. Book smart but still a dumba$$.
That's better than no-smarts ATP. Are there some good ATP grads? Absolutely. If you were motivated and studied way more than the minimum, you could be a pretty good pilot. Other than that, I've never been to any other place that taught the absolute minimum to pass a checkride. There was no Airmanship taught at that place. It was teach to the test, pay your money, and move on. At the VERY least, a ERAU graduate or aviation university grad will have a very good base of knowledge. I'm not saying an aviation university is the best option. I know for a fact, though, that there is as little unsupervised flying or solo flying at ATP as legally allowed. At least at ERAU, your long commercial cross-country is solo and VFR.
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Old 02-07-2015, 08:35 PM
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**crickets**
Yes, the very first page. Something Envoy wished they had. It is forbidden that J.O. creates an alter ego like Freedom Jet. J.O. cannot give our flying to some one else. Line Guarantee is a good thing as well. And no one will ever argue that our next contract will be worse! We can only look up.
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Old 02-07-2015, 08:43 PM
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Line guarantee is only good compared to RAH. I hope the best for your next contract. What's the status on your negotiations? What's the expectations over there?
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Old 02-07-2015, 11:17 PM
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Line guarantee is only good compared to RAH. I hope the best for your next contract. What's the status on your negotiations? What's the expectations over there?
Hahahaha. LMAO. JO knows how to play ALPA. ALPA talks tough but the pilot group has no leverage. It's all a secret until it's a done deal.
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Is there anything attractive about their contract that would make anyone want to apply there at those rates and conditions besides the shiny E-175?
- Bases all over country.

- Great group of CP's.

- Lots of movement. Most junior CRJ CA is Fall 2013, Most junior EJET CA is summer 2013.

- Great crews, these guys are awesome, don't even compare to the guys I flew with at RAH.

- Quick upgrade? (but for how long?) I had stopped recommending friends to come here after Spring 2014 because I figured that would be the cutoff for quick upgrades. But everytime we turn around there's a new announcement of aircraft.

- The company leaves you alone, I know guys who call off every month or every other month, no harassment or carpet dances have followed.

- Stability, we have zero 50 seaters. (For now....) Longest contracts with our mainline partners of any regional. Oil is low now = 50 seaters make money... but for how long?

- ERJ and CRJ on certificate, we can essentially take any aircraft tomorrow to be flying next week.

- Be prepared to be on RSV 2-5 months (winter) or 1-3 months (summer). You will be bidding in the top 30% of you base 12-16 months after hire. (FOs)

- Line guarentee. EFBs. GREAT training department.

-Everyone keeps hoping for a "better" contract. We're not getting a new contract as long as we're growing like this. I see it as- by the time Mesa gets a new contract, I'll have moved on. It's how this regional new flying/quick upgrade wave works.
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