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Old 04-14-2013, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by swamp View Post
Unfortunately this is true. Recruiter was pretty quick to tell me " you know you have an interview". I questioned him (arnie) about possibly jumping ahead and doing the full interview, his response was basically - your union will notify you of any possible progressions in the bridge agreement...what a joke...

I only know of one guy in that type of job with the name arnie, that would be Captain Arnie Kraby. In 07/08 he was the head of the hiring and the office you went into to be told by him if you were hired or not. Who else was with him at WIA?
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2 View Post
I only know of one guy in that type of job with the name arnie, that would be Captain Arnie Kraby. In 07/08 he was the head of the hiring and the office you went into to be told by him if you were hired or not. Who else was with him at WIA?
Not sure about the other recruiters. Arnie was who I talked to.
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Old 04-14-2013, 06:00 AM
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Unfortunately this is true. Recruiter was pretty quick to tell me " you know you have an interview". I questioned him (arnie) about possibly jumping ahead and doing the full interview, his response was basically - your union will notify you of any possible progressions in the bridge agreement...what a joke...
You guys voted for it. Now you will work for your current wages until Delta needs you....if you have a degree (couldn't resist). In all serious, this bridge agreement probably burned the bridge for a lot of you.
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Old 04-14-2013, 06:29 AM
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The only way to get out of that is to work for someone else then apply.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:08 AM
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JRumours are flying like mad around the training center...and even talked of hiring and upgrades
Have there been any furloughs so far? Or did having so many people bail and the slow pace of removal of the 200s take care of staffing levels?
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:20 AM
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Have there been any furloughs so far? Or did having so many people bail and the slow pace of removal of the 200s take care of staffing levels?
I think there are a few voluntary furloughs, not sure if they were canceled. There are a good handful of guys on long term leave, but the company pulled the plug a few months back. There have been a few days of premium pay and most if not all drops and swaps are denied due to staffing. This summer should be fun.
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You guys voted for it. Now you will work for your current wages until Delta needs you....if you have a degree (couldn't resist). In all serious, this bridge agreement probably burned the bridge for a lot of you.
That whole consessionary LOA was filled with total BS, and 85% of our boys and girls bought into it... Now slowly but surely I keep hearing "hey wait a minute, they didn't say it was gonna be like that".

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That whole consessionary LOA was filled with total BS, and 85% of our boys and girls bought into it... Now slowly but surely I keep hearing "hey wait a minute, they didn't say it was gonna be like that".

TWs hair tonic will cure all your career needs...
The problem is not the things that were already known, for example, payrates. When one votes for that, they knew what they were getting. The problem is for them to get the FOs to pass this. A BIG issue/contention was the Delta SSP interview program. All FOs were surprised and probably ticked off that one has to be a current CA or be a former CA in order to qualify for the SSP interview. However, the union sold this to the FOs by saying something along the lines of "well, FOs, you don't have to go through the SSP, nothing stops you from applying to Delta on your own." And people bought it.

This gentlemen Arnie seems to have put a nail in that supposed "fact."

Any current 9E FO should be livid at what they were fed about the SSP interview program to get this whole TA/deal to pass.
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:09 PM
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Here it is.........................

Q: To be eligible for the SSP, you must be a Captain, correct? Does that mean F/Os will not be eligible?

A: No! First Officers are eligible to be hired by Delta as part of the monthly hiring commitment (that is, one third of the overall monthly commitment) outside of the SSP, so First Officers directly stand to benefit from the Bridge Agreement and will not have to wait until all Captains have been considered.

All pilots on the seniority list at the time of ratification will be entitled to an interview under the SSP. To be eligible to attend that interview under the SSP, you must be, or have been, a Captain at Pinnacle (or on leave holding a Captain position) at the time of your selection. As Pinnacle Captains move on to Delta, that will create upgrade opportunities for current First Officers to upgrade to Captain and become eligible for the seniority-based SSP.

As noted above, in addition to the hiring that will take place under the SSP, Delta has reserved the right to hire 1/3 of the monthly commitment from Pinnacle outside of seniority order, so current First Officers will be hired without having to wait to be eligible for the SSP.


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You gotta like the No! with an exclamation point. As if, they really wanted to highlight this to the FOs so they would vote yes.
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Here it is.........................

Q: To be eligible for the SSP, you must be a Captain, correct? Does that mean F/Os will not be eligible?

A: No! First Officers are eligible to be hired by Delta as part of the monthly hiring commitment (that is, one third of the overall monthly commitment) outside of the SSP, so First Officers directly stand to benefit from the Bridge Agreement and will not have to wait until all Captains have been considered.

All pilots on the seniority list at the time of ratification will be entitled to an interview under the SSP. To be eligible to attend that interview under the SSP, you must be, or have been, a Captain at Pinnacle (or on leave holding a Captain position) at the time of your selection. As Pinnacle Captains move on to Delta, that will create upgrade opportunities for current First Officers to upgrade to Captain and become eligible for the seniority-based SSP.

As noted above, in addition to the hiring that will take place under the SSP, Delta has reserved the right to hire 1/3 of the monthly commitment from Pinnacle outside of seniority order, so current First Officers will be hired without having to wait to be eligible for the SSP.


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You gotta like the No! with an exclamation point. As if, they really wanted to highlight this to the FOs so they would vote yes.
We get it, you left Pinnacle and made a good choice. You can move on now. You don't have to keep coming on here and trying to prove to the rest of the world you made the right decision.

People didn't vote for this because of the bridge, they voted for it because they wanted to keep their jobs. Also, if you re-read the last sentence you just posted, Delta can hire 1/3 of the required Pinnacle pilots outside of the bridge (and these can be FOs). An FO has a much better chance of being hired from Pinnacle than from any other company, how are FO's at any other companies going to get hired at Delta?

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