gatorbuc99

I'm one of them; there were family reasons I went there that changed, and career-wise it made sense to go to make the lateral move to PSA. Everyone has their reasons, the point I'm making is it's unrealistic to not expect people to act in their personal best interest.

There's not a ton of 1500 types but there's plenty of ex-Comair, ATA, Endeavor, etc

skypilot35

Some propaganda:
U.S. Carriers Face Shrinking Pool Of Pilots | Commercial Aviation content from Aviation Week

atpcliff

We have ata guys. They said everyone from ata is either flying or out of flying permanently. I have not heard of any comair guys looking, other than former Comair pilots in the industry looking to switch to a better flying job. Endeavour....Don't get this....None of them furloughed.

atpcliff

I read the article. I would call it "Truth" rather than "Propaganda". It covered a wide variety of airlines including the worries at Delta and SWA about future pilot hiring.

And it mentioned Asian carriers, and how not a lot of U.S.pilots want fly for them. That is changing as the wages skyrocket and those carriers add U.S.pilot bases.

atpcliff

As a passenger, I have experienced quite a few cancellations and delays due lack of flight crew.

As a pilot employee, we are turning away new customers, and turning away additional business from existing customers, due lack of pilots and lack of planes...can't get new planes if we don't have the staffing.

marcal

I flew for one of the top foreign carriers that had US bases. In fact I was on the base the whole time I was there. Not only did I leave to come back to the US, but I can assure you there are plenty of guys looking to come back home, even those on the bases. Plenty.

bigboeings

Who has US bases? I haven't seen this yet.

atpcliff

KAL, NCA, Jet (India) has JFK 777 capt bases, China (Eastern?/Southern?) Has SEA -330 capt bases, another Chinese carrier has US capt bases for a specific airframe. Etihad allows some captains to commute.

I think that Asian/ME carriers will implement U.S.pilot bases as their hiring situation deteriorates.

Two Chinese carriers started hiring expat FOs last summer...first time China has allowed expat FOs.

atpcliff

TSA being affected by the pilot shortage:

Quote (Originally by v1valarob)---
Not a new guy to management tactics. My 4th rodeo, but K2 came in to new hire class and said that negotiation open later this year, but that upper management want the contract done by fall.*

I dont believe him, but its the rumor they want spread.
---End Quote---
I don't make it a habit to trust management.* That being said, if you look at this from the outside looking in, a labor dispute in the middle of trying to hire 600 pilots will not be good for business.* They know they are competing against PSA, Mesa, and Envoy with shiny new airplanes and/or flow-throughs.* They saw what bad labor relations are/were doing to places like Envoy and Expressjet.* More people leaving than coming on board.* When you're trying to triple the size of your airline, quick and dirty is the best way.

404yxl

The Increased Insanity of Concessions in 2015 and Beyond.

Attrition and hiring ability is only going to get worse.