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Old 04-22-2014, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Past V1 View Post
PSA won't matter if all the other groups get a good contract. All qualified pilots won't even apply there, they will be flocking to good contract carriers. Stupid by the PSA MEC Chairman. They are going to shot themselves in the foot once the dust settles.
Yep, kinda like how Great Lakes can't find applicants.....oh wait.
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:57 AM
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You guys have all the leverage. Think about it for a minute, if an entire seniority list walked off the job (in a legal job action of course) who could replace them? You even have the media on your side which is unbelievable. Imagine the headline: "Pilots of XYZ airline walk off the job in protest of $22,000/year starting pay." This subject has gained serious traction. You are doing the right thing by escalating it. If not now then when?
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Anger and spite feel good, but don't solve anything. When you leave out the worst offenders, it only gives them more excuse to offend.




I completely agree. Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.

We should all be on the phone with our friends at the regionals not on the list asking them to put pressure on their MECs to sign. STOP THE WHIPSAW!!!
At GoJet, we are in the process of removing our stewards. Pretty sure we have enough refugees on property to ensure a no vote if a TA ever comes. This is not to say original GoJet guys would all vote yes, but those of us that have seen how quick a company will throw you away will surely vote no. I would hope so anyway. I know I have not one ounce of care in me if the company cannot continue to operate because we demand a fair wage. Just means that the regional experiment did not work. Game over.
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What did Gojet and PDTs union say the reason they didn't sign was? Im looking for and official reason not speculation. Thanks
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The PSA MEC chairman shouldn't have signed it
I was thinking the same thing. He probably thought that no one would notice.
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I was thinking the same thing. He probably thought that no one would notice.
He just means they won't take any MORE concessions. The first round was ok, but no more, dammit! They have standards!
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:09 PM
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At GoJet, we are in the process of removing our stewards. Pretty sure we have enough refugees on property to ensure a no vote if a TA ever comes. This is not to say original GoJet guys would all vote yes, but those of us that have seen how quick a company will throw you away will surely vote no. I would hope so anyway. I know I have not one ounce of care in me if the company cannot continue to operate because we demand a fair wage. Just means that the regional experiment did not work. Game over.
Seriously???

That's awesome! I hope you guys are able to make it work over there!!!
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At GoJet, we are in the process of removing our stewards. Pretty sure we have enough refugees on property to ensure a no vote if a TA ever comes. This is not to say original GoJet guys would all vote yes, but those of us that have seen how quick a company will throw you away will surely vote no. I would hope so anyway. I know I have not one ounce of care in me if the company cannot continue to operate because we demand a fair wage. Just means that the regional experiment did not work. Game over.




Seriously???

That's awesome! I hope you guys are able to make it work over there!!!
Thanks man. I think there is an honest effort being made. Throwing out the old guard. Grievances are being filed. I am aware that GoJet's beginnings are not squeaky clean but that does not mean we cannot try to turn it around. It's not going anywhere, so it's time to fix it.
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Originally Posted by Sr. Barco View Post
You guys have all the leverage. Think about it for a minute, if an entire seniority list walked off the job (in a legal job action of course) who could replace them? You even have the media on your side which is unbelievable. Imagine the headline: "Pilots of XYZ airline walk off the job in protest of $22,000/year starting pay." This subject has gained serious traction. You are doing the right thing by escalating it. If not now then when?
Pilots don't need to walk away from the job to change the starting pay of $22k, they just to need to ask for a higher starting pay..

If you think and believe that the $22k starting pay is because that is what management pays.....

WRONG

This is what the negotiating committee, basically senior pilots, asks the management to pay the new hires...

Anyone who doesn't believe or agree with this, still needs to learn a lot about managements unions and organized labor...
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:12 PM
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BC I agree with you. I was taking an extreme position for sake of argument. Just don't budge during negotiations, no reason to. Double starting pay should be the opening position, no joke.
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