Pilot unions band together to fight contract
04-22-2014, 03:10 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Sr. Barco
BC I agree with you. I was taking an extreme position for sake of argument. Just don't budge during negotiations, no reason to. Double starting pay should be the opening position, no joke.
I agree 100% that if the Pilot groups hold strong now, they can regain a lot, if not most, of the lost pay, bennies & prestige....
This all will have to start with paying the Jr guy a live able wage & it will require a change in the thought process of " Because I had to do it, so Jr should do it also......"
Another thing I would like to add, Instead of alienating certain pilot groups, if we can try to get everyone together, that will help this profession a lot more....
Stay strong, stay focused & stay together....
04-22-2014, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 8hourrule
At GoJet, we are in the process of removing our stewards. Pretty sure we have enough refugees on property to ensure a no vote if a TA ever comes. This is not to say original GoJet guys would all vote yes, but those of us that have seen how quick a company will throw you away will surely vote no. I would hope so anyway. I know I have not one ounce of care in me if the company cannot continue to operate because we demand a fair wage. Just means that the regional experiment did not work. Game over.
04-23-2014, 07:28 AM
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PDT update
So after much speculation, PDT MEC put out an update as to why he did not sign the current FFDC letter. Without getting into all the details, our MEC chairman was not present at the meeting where the letter was drafted and had several questions before he felt he could endorse such a letter. His main problem was how vague the letter was. There was no real purpose to it other than to make fact-less statements. It was filled with empty promises. He sited several similar letters where each had a tangible goal in what they were trying to accomplish and how they would try and move forward, most recently a very similarly worded document drafted by the FFDC from August 2013. He also stated we are not against a unified approach to better regional pilots however making vague promises without stating concrete goals is useless and a failure to those pilots the MEC represents.
04-23-2014, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by higgi8f6
So after much speculation, PDT MEC put out an update as to why he did not sign the current FFDC letter. Without getting into all the details, our MEC chairman was not present at the meeting where the letter was drafted and had several questions before he felt he could endorse such a letter. His main problem was how vague the letter was. There was no real purpose to it other than to make fact-less statements. It was filled with empty promises. He sited several similar letters where each had a tangible goal in what they were trying to accomplish and how they would try and move forward, most recently a very similarly worded document drafted by the FFDC from August 2013. He also stated we are not against a unified approach to better regional pilots however making vague promises without stating concrete goals is useless and a failure to those pilots the MEC represents.
No one can state concrete goals in the highly dynamic situation in which we find ourselves and revealing specific tactics would be akin to the coach handing his play book and game plan to the opposing team's coach the night before.
Very weak.
04-23-2014, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bcpilot
I understand..
I agree 100% that if the Pilot groups hold strong now, they can regain a lot, if not most, of the lost pay, bennies & prestige....
This all will have to start with paying the Jr guy a live able wage & it will require a change in the thought process of " Because I had to do it, so Jr should do it also......"
Another thing I would like to add, Instead of alienating certain pilot groups, if we can try to get everyone together, that will help this profession a lot more....
Stay strong, stay focused & stay together....
I agree 100% that if the Pilot groups hold strong now, they can regain a lot, if not most, of the lost pay, bennies & prestige....
This all will have to start with paying the Jr guy a live able wage & it will require a change in the thought process of " Because I had to do it, so Jr should do it also......"
Another thing I would like to add, Instead of alienating certain pilot groups, if we can try to get everyone together, that will help this profession a lot more....
Stay strong, stay focused & stay together....
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