Warning about Endeavor to Delta (ETD)
07-17-2014, 08:03 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
Lol this is really gonna burn some people asses who got turned down for endeavor and thus written off at delta when, in a few years, the EtD agreement gets canceled before ANYONE flows through.
I cannot say enough what a putrid deal this EtD thing is for pilots
I cannot say enough what a putrid deal this EtD thing is for pilots
07-17-2014, 11:41 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by Broncoav8r
Compass very much still has a flow, for pilots hired before 8/2010.
Not only does Compass still have flow, the language in the flow agreement is far stronger than anything in the EtD agreement. The compass flow isn't going anywhere. The interview for pilots hired after 8/2010 is unknown.
Not only does Compass still have flow, the language in the flow agreement is far stronger than anything in the EtD agreement. The compass flow isn't going anywhere. The interview for pilots hired after 8/2010 is unknown.
What a tool.
07-17-2014, 10:07 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Thanks for the response. I can understand screwing up an approach in the sim or something like that, but if you just give a lackluster HR interview, is that still a "try again in a year" sort of thing, or is it solely reserved for making tangible factual or simulator mistakes?
They are looking at your personality and how you would fit in socially. Where guys go wrong is being argumentative, not paying attention to the female in the room. Generally not being prepared may still get you another try, depending on how well you come across. The psych portion guys fail because they don't realize what the shrink is doing. they will try to push buttons to see what the response is. Come across as defensive, aggressive, or combative, and it's game over.
Mess up the computer testing, they will let you try again.
07-18-2014, 08:52 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
There is no sim ride. The interview consists of a written test, (done on a computer,) a cognitive skills test also on a computer, the face to face, and the psych test (MMPI) and interview. The two portions that will get you blacklisted is the face to face and the psych interview if you bone them.
They are looking at your personality and how you would fit in socially. Where guys go wrong is being argumentative, not paying attention to the female in the room. Generally not being prepared may still get you another try, depending on how well you come across. The psych portion guys fail because they don't realize what the shrink is doing. they will try to push buttons to see what the response is. Come across as defensive, aggressive, or combative, and it's game over.
Mess up the computer testing, they will let you try again.
They are looking at your personality and how you would fit in socially. Where guys go wrong is being argumentative, not paying attention to the female in the room. Generally not being prepared may still get you another try, depending on how well you come across. The psych portion guys fail because they don't realize what the shrink is doing. they will try to push buttons to see what the response is. Come across as defensive, aggressive, or combative, and it's game over.
Mess up the computer testing, they will let you try again.
07-18-2014, 12:09 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by MR JT8D
And you actually took the cog? And for which Delta carrier?
It is literally a test that if you can read and follow directions and have half a brain you will pass.
07-18-2014, 05:52 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
...Not sure how the EtD is structured. However, I don't see how it can be a full up Delta interview if it's Endeavor pilots and HR conducting the interviews and not Delta pilots and mainline HR.
07-18-2014, 06:57 PM
#30
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News flash Delta is controlling the hiring at Endeavor. If Delta wants you then Endeavor will hire you and if they don't then.......you know the rest. Once hired under ETD you will flow. If they cancel ETD this will affect future candidates not ones already in the program. The situation at Endeavor is tough right now due to lack of staffing. If people show up then things will get better fast upgrades and month to month improvements in relative seniority. Delta likes the control they have over Endeavor and if they can staff it they will make it big.
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