Wano

Just watch, when it doesn't work in Australia they'll go to Haiti or Rwanda.

atpcliff

This was a joke...

because you have to have a Green Card/Passport to work as a Pilot in the US. It doesn't matter where you're from, as long as you have the right to work in the US, then you can.

Turboprop

H2 Visas are still another option, but the airlines are not going to spend $5K for just one person. that will not work. its only valid for 2 years Max if I recall.

plus they need to get the Pilots certificate to be converted to FAA... time and money the airlines are not going to spend.

Yes, this was a great Joke! LMAO

deftone

Wouldnt the airlines need to prove that there is a lack of pilots here before the government would approve visas for foreign pilots to come fly for US based airlines?

Surely they couldnt just bring in foreign labor because their low wages and poor conditions mean they cannot attract American labor?

badflaps

You will know it is down to the wire when Embraer starts printing everything in the cockpit in Cyrillic.

MR JT8D

That just goes to show you that they DO have more money to pay the pilots.

eman

A couple of you had said this is a joke and I agree; but is it actually in effect and working yet?

That's ridiculous that they are willing to pay all those costs and not raise pay...but companies will go to any extreme to not hire citizens and pay a liveable wage. Just research the battle of the programmer's guild and companies like Microsoft.

Hope this doesn't work but you never know, 'til you know


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griff312

They will ABSOLUTELY spend tons of money on initial new hires, all day long before they EVER raise pay rates for the rest. They can spin these expenses to their stockholders, ect. as controllable short term, temporary cost. But pay raises are long term cost. You're already seeing them offer $5K sign on bonuses, and $10K scholarships to new hires, but not offering a single penny to those already on property beyond 1st year pay. They not only have a "hiring" problem, but more importantly, a "retention" problem. If they could offer a new person an additional $15K (in bonuses), on top of their $25K 1st yr salary, to get them in the door and avoid across the board raises, they'd do whatever they have to. Management's problem is: any raise, be it just for first year pay, or all FO's, or the whole pilot group has to be approved in an LOA by the pilot's collective bargaining association. Their union is not likely to allow a pay raise for a small sect of the group, while the whole group is grossly underpaid. Otherwise, that allows the company to fix a small part of their own mess, at the rest of the pilot groups expense. So, since new hires are not part of the union, nor under that airline's CBA, they can be offered anything possible by the company, without the rest of the pilot group being entitled to it. The LAST thing any airline managers want to do, is to implement pay raises. Those are permanent costs, that they will not be able to take back for a decade, if ever.

eman

Thanks for that. I'm not at a regional (hopefully never either) and have never been in a union; so I'm learning how all this works for the future.




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RH1228

This is very straight forward. Yet it seems many people don't understand. For the people who think wages will magically be increased across the board go to your local community college and take a few basic business classes. In the current environment an airline will go out of business before any significant wage increase is implemented.