upgrade vs. wholly owned?
08-22-2014, 07:09 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by JohnGardner
Are you guys still thinking the 900's are growth aircraft? Serious question.
08-22-2014, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunkin
First CRJ200 lease is up in 2019 and they have not parked any yet so you tell me. Why would they park the cheaper PSA 200s before the more expensive AWAC/SKW/XJT/ENV 50 seat aircraft? I don't think you know as much as you think but keep flaming.
I have never seen you here before but you post is dripping with newbie.
08-22-2014, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnGardner
Are you guys still thinking the 900's are growth aircraft? Serious question.
So they spent all that money to about double our pilot group, hire additional dispatchers, schedulers, MX etc.
They also upgraded our training center. Purchased 3 sims and quadrupled the size of the training dept for what? To furlough everyone in a year when they decide to park our 200s?
Why would they do this? Just to tell the pilots....HA! We fooled you! You'll still be the same size.....FOREVER!.
Serious question.
Cmon.
08-22-2014, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by yimke
Just don't PSA your situation and you will be fine. Do whatever your mind is telling you.
Also, as for upgrade at your time, upgrade will be more like 3-4 years depending on the regional. Most minimums are 3000-4000 hours. At 600 hours per year average with EVERYONE else in the company trying to do the same, it might take longer than you think. Also, they won't lower the minimums because there are plenty of 5k hour FOs out there willing to jump ship if DECs happen.
Also, as for upgrade at your time, upgrade will be more like 3-4 years depending on the regional. Most minimums are 3000-4000 hours. At 600 hours per year average with EVERYONE else in the company trying to do the same, it might take longer than you think. Also, they won't lower the minimums because there are plenty of 5k hour FOs out there willing to jump ship if DECs happen.
08-22-2014, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnGardner
Are you guys still thinking the 900's are growth aircraft? Serious question.
08-22-2014, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
You do realize that ENV 50seaters are cheaper that the 200? Why? Because they cut their lease price in BK.
PSA has been told over and over and over that our 200 leases are "dirt cheap" and that they would continue to make money even if fuel rose sharply.
What does that mean? Who knows.
We can sit here and say "I'm cheaper"....."No! I'm cheaper!" when the fact is neither of you have any idea what the real cost is.
You do realize that.....right?
I suppose that is what this website is all about though.
08-22-2014, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JT8D
This represents a typical conversation in a PSA cockpit, does it not?
Dunkin welcome aboard. And I meant ship sailed as in if you get hired now, you will not upgrade in a year or two like many believes. Maybe 3-4 which is still awesome considering most of the recent upgrades were at 5-7 year mark. Of corse now it's down to 2.5 or less!
08-22-2014, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by skyxbomb
I know we bumped heads jt8d but that's pretty funny! Darn it Pagey, left yourself wide open for that one!
Dunkin welcome aboard. And I meant ship sailed as in if you get hired now, you will not upgrade in a year or two like many believes. Maybe 3-4 which is still awesome considering most of the recent upgrades were at 5-7 year mark. Of corse now it's down to 2.5 or less!
Dunkin welcome aboard. And I meant ship sailed as in if you get hired now, you will not upgrade in a year or two like many believes. Maybe 3-4 which is still awesome considering most of the recent upgrades were at 5-7 year mark. Of corse now it's down to 2.5 or less!
I no longer respond to jt8d because he is irrational at best and full on psycho most likely.
Everyone on here argues until they are red in the face when in reality no one has any clue what they are talking about. Myself included.
Any time you present a logical, thought out post filled with facts everyone goes away for a couple days like it never happened because it's easier to just shout "backstabber" "scab" blah blah.
Unless it can be quoted from a contract, or leasing agreement etc. it's all speculation and mud slinging.
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