gojo

And how do you know this?

amcnd

Everyone knows Mesa and Trans States flew as a Delta connection.. As well as Comair. And its no hidden thing SkyWest gets better aircraft purchase terms then Delta does on Aircraft.. The rest. I know because i do... I think its a the same as Eagle and the CRJ700's going to PSA. The 200's are eventualy going away.. The will Time/cycle out.. Delta can shift the small fleet of 9E's left to another airline to take over the lease and free up capital for Delta to order more widebodys.. Even 20-50 200's can restruct the favirable rates banks will give Delta on new aircraft..

BATOL

You guys are all so flustered about this "rate reset". The thing is, Delta doesn't care! They're playing a game of chess where they win either way. They are smart enough to know that the regional model is dead. It's run it's course and is not sustainable, not to mention they like to control the product very tightly. And of course, the 200/50 seat or less feed is REALLY done.

With vertical integration and an economy of scale, they know they can make money on 900's til the cows come home, probably even at their current published mainline CBA rates. So whatever they say they're willing to pay for future CPA's will be so low that they'll laugh all the way to the bank if somebody actually agrees to it. And if they don't agree to it (and I sincerely hope they don't) I believe we'll see Delta be the first legacy to unwind this regional experiment starting with 9e (and no, not by shutting us down).


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gojo

While you do have some things right, I'd be interested to see facts as to why you feel "And 9E doesnt have the lowest "full operating" costs..." I'm not saying your wrong, as I haven't seen any comparisons on paper. However, it would surprise me as I know Endeavor piggy backs off of almost every major Delta function. As for Eagle's/Envoy's 700's going to PSA, I believe Envoy can operate them profitably for AA with their current contract, just as I believe LASA can operate their planes with their current contract profitably for Skywest Inc. However, AA, Skywest, United, Delta, or any publicly held company for that matter is/should try to earn the most revenue for their product. That makes the shareholders happy, and the CEO and others get to keep their jobs. Lastly, I'd be surprised if anyone could adequately staff 20-50 CRJ 200's right now. Why would anyone want to go there knowing they're only temporary? Unless that deal were to come with a promiss of something else later

bonesbrigade

Our published CRJ operating costs were 50% as much as ASA.

Saabs

Because Delta can't afford widebodies without doing that....

Nantonaku

I don't believe that, send us the link for this publication.

Captainobvious

Sweet! looks like we are upgrading 50 people next year!

Avroman

How many of those are FO's that never were captains here? We already have downgraded more than 50 captains....

Ftrooppilot

[QUOTE=Nantonaku;1736009]I don't believe that, send us the link for this publication.[/QUOTE

General Revenue and Expense | Audries Aircraft Analysis

http://www.audriesaircraftanalysis.c...se/?airline=EV

The 2014 (to date ?) shows that Endeavor has experienced a + $3.18 million operating margin whereas Express Jet shows a - $15.5 million operating margin.