Endeavor 2015
09-09-2014, 09:20 AM
#11
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Posts: 7,339
Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Have you considered getting re-hired under the EtD program? If you are only on year two pay and plan on being in NY anyway it is something I'd consider. While the program has been a colossal failure thus far who knows what the future will bring.
09-09-2014, 12:18 PM
#13
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Position: Bus driver
Posts: 2,524
Originally Posted by 9easy
SSP is only valid for captains, someone hired in 2011 will never upgrade mathematically unless things change drastically.
Things will be interesting going forward. Endeavor can flourish with -200's waiting to be staffed, or torpedoed without applicants. All of that is outside any of our purview. 100 -200"s need to be staffed per DL network planning, but all the other carriers are not even participating in the RFP. That leaves Endeavor to do it, if the pilots exist.
09-09-2014, 12:33 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,898
Things will be interesting going forward. Endeavor can flourish with -200's waiting to be staffed, or torpedoed without applicants. All of that is outside any of our purview. 100 -200"s need to be staffed per DL network planning, but all the other carriers are not even participating in the RFP. That leaves Endeavor to do it, if the pilots exist.
09-09-2014, 12:59 PM
#15
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 294
Current number of pilots = 1,750
Number of pilots needed to staff the 900s = 800-900
Average # of pilots quiting per month 2014 = 37
# of pilots hired so far this year = 29
I would venture to say that downgrades continue until all the 200s are gone. At this point they are left with a decent amount of regional lifers as captains, and "dreamers" that made up their own fleet plan in their heads as FOs.
Number of pilots needed to staff the 900s = 800-900
Average # of pilots quiting per month 2014 = 37
# of pilots hired so far this year = 29
I would venture to say that downgrades continue until all the 200s are gone. At this point they are left with a decent amount of regional lifers as captains, and "dreamers" that made up their own fleet plan in their heads as FOs.
09-09-2014, 02:21 PM
#16
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Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: Body at sea level; heart at 70,000+
Posts: 1,349
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Fact remains Endeavor is publicly stated by Delta to be a 81 CRJ-900 only airline. To state anything to the contrary is misinformation just like the "or have been a Captain" for SSP.
09-09-2014, 02:29 PM
#17
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 134
Originally Posted by higney85
This mindset seems quite prevalent, yet irrelevant. With the industry changing, many folks outside of endeavor are changing their tunes. Don't flame it, just stating reality. Applications are growing, but the selection process is becoming competitive.Does it make sense? NO. Is it reality, YES.
Things will be interesting going forward. Endeavor can flourish with -200's waiting to be staffed, or torpedoed without applicants. All of that is outside any of our purview. 100 -200"s need to be staffed per DL network planning, but all the other carriers are not even participating in the RFP. That leaves Endeavor to do it, if the pilots exist.
Things will be interesting going forward. Endeavor can flourish with -200's waiting to be staffed, or torpedoed without applicants. All of that is outside any of our purview. 100 -200"s need to be staffed per DL network planning, but all the other carriers are not even participating in the RFP. That leaves Endeavor to do it, if the pilots exist.
09-09-2014, 02:30 PM
#18
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 344
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Fact remains Endeavor is publicly stated by Delta to be a 81 CRJ-900 only airline. To state anything to the contrary is misinformation just like the "or have been a Captain" for SSP.
09-09-2014, 03:09 PM
#20
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Port of Indecision and Southwest of Disorder
Posts: 587
Originally Posted by higney85
This mindset seems quite prevalent, yet irrelevant. With the industry changing, many folks outside of endeavor are changing their tunes. Don't flame it, just stating reality. Applications are growing, but the selection process is becoming competitive.Does it make sense? NO. Is it reality, YES.
Things will be interesting going forward. Endeavor can flourish with -200's waiting to be staffed, or torpedoed without applicants. All of that is outside any of our purview. 100 -200"s need to be staffed per DL network planning, but all the other carriers are not even participating in the RFP. That leaves Endeavor to do it, if the pilots exist.
Things will be interesting going forward. Endeavor can flourish with -200's waiting to be staffed, or torpedoed without applicants. All of that is outside any of our purview. 100 -200"s need to be staffed per DL network planning, but all the other carriers are not even participating in the RFP. That leaves Endeavor to do it, if the pilots exist.
The incentive to come to Endeavor isn't there......yet. Plenty of other carriers pay better and have a much shorter upgrade time. If the higher powers in Atlanta want this experiment to work they need to correct these two issues. All the marketing in the world, attending road shows, and handing out koolaid to college kids won't help when we have 8 year first officers on property. I wish we could see what this place looks like in a year......
Last edited by Lone Palm; 09-09-2014 at 03:37 PM.
