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Old 09-09-2014, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by higney85 View Post
This mindset seems quite prevalent, yet irrelevant. With the industry changing, many folks outside of endeavor are changing their tunes. Don't flame it, just stating reality. Applications are growing, but the selection process is becoming competitive.Does it make sense? NO. Is it reality, YES.

Things will be interesting going forward. Endeavor can flourish with -200's waiting to be staffed, or torpedoed without applicants. All of that is outside any of our purview. 100 -200"s need to be staffed per DL network planning, but all the other carriers are not even participating in the RFP. That leaves Endeavor to do it, if the pilots exist.
A lot of things are going to have to change for any of this optimism to come to fruition.
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Old 09-09-2014, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot View Post
It takes one simulator to support crews for thirty airplanes. I believe the fourth CRJ900 simulator has been installed in MSP.
Which is completely irrelevant. You have to hand it to Delta. Only Delta can get a pilot group to vote 85% yes, publish a fleet plan/end-state of 81 CR9s, and still get a portion of pilots to actually believe they'll keep as many CR2s as they can staff. Delta = pure genius. 40-45 pilots leaving per month? Perfect for Delta, as they bring Endeavor down to 81 planes which is approx 950 total pilots. In fact, if there are 1850 pilots on property today, Delta wants ~900 pilots gone by end of 2015. Raise pay? Why? Delta is getting exactly what it wants from Endeavor. Only pilots make the mistake of thinking things aren't going according to plan. For Delta, it literally can't get any better. They'll let the rate reset debacle happen at other DCI carriers, force them to do it lower costs than before, and end of 2015 shut down Endeavor. Latest end 2016. By 2017, the only Endeavor Air that will exist is Mel Gibson's in 'Ransom'
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Old 09-09-2014, 03:57 PM
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Which is completely irrelevant. You have to hand it to Delta. Only Delta can get a pilot group to vote 85% yes, publish a fleet plan/end-state of 81 CR9s, and still get a portion of pilots to actually believe they'll keep as many CR2s as they can staff. Delta = pure genius. 40-45 pilots leaving per month? Perfect for Delta, as they bring Endeavor down to 81 planes which is approx 950 total pilots. In fact, if there are 1850 pilots on property today, Delta wants ~900 pilots gone by end of 2015. Raise pay? Why? Delta is getting exactly what it wants from Endeavor. Only pilots make the mistake of thinking things aren't going according to plan. For Delta, it literally can't get any better. They'll let the rate reset debacle happen at other DCI carriers, force them to do it lower costs than before, and end of 2015 shut down Endeavor. Latest end 2016. By 2017, the only Endeavor Air that will exist is Mel Gibson's in 'Ransom'
And what then? Give all those 900's to ASA or Skywest? Then Delta would lose their precious whipsaw not to mention setting themselves up like they did when Comair did the majority of their regional lift. I really doubt they'll put that many eggs in one basket.
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Old 09-09-2014, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
Which is completely irrelevant. You have to hand it to Delta. Only Delta can get a pilot group to vote 85% yes, publish a fleet plan/end-state of 81 CR9s, and still get a portion of pilots to actually believe they'll keep as many CR2s as they can staff. Delta = pure genius. 40-45 pilots leaving per month? Perfect for Delta, as they bring Endeavor down to 81 planes which is approx 950 total pilots. In fact, if there are 1850 pilots on property today, Delta wants ~900 pilots gone by end of 2015. Raise pay? Why? Delta is getting exactly what it wants from Endeavor. Only pilots make the mistake of thinking things aren't going according to plan. For Delta, it literally can't get any better. They'll let the rate reset debacle happen at other DCI carriers, force them to do it lower costs than before, and end of 2015 shut down Endeavor. Latest end 2016. By 2017, the only Endeavor Air that will exist is Mel Gibson's in 'Ransom'
And here I thought we'd lost you forever. The expert has returned! Might as well close this one up. Must be tough having all the answers...
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Old 09-09-2014, 04:25 PM
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And here I thought we'd lost you forever. The expert has returned! Might as well close this one up. Must be tough having all the answers...
Not by a long shot so carry on and good day.
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Old 09-09-2014, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
Which is completely irrelevant. You have to hand it to Delta. Only Delta can get a pilot group to vote 85% yes, publish a fleet plan/end-state of 81 CR9s, and still get a portion of pilots to actually believe they'll keep as many CR2s as they can staff. Delta = pure genius. 40-45 pilots leaving per month? Perfect for Delta, as they bring Endeavor down to 81 planes which is approx 950 total pilots. In fact, if there are 1850 pilots on property today, Delta wants ~900 pilots gone by end of 2015. Raise pay? Why? Delta is getting exactly what it wants from Endeavor. Only pilots make the mistake of thinking things aren't going according to plan. For Delta, it literally can't get any better. They'll let the rate reset debacle happen at other DCI carriers, force them to do it lower costs than before, and end of 2015 shut down Endeavor. Latest end 2016. By 2017, the only Endeavor Air that will exist is Mel Gibson's in 'Ransom'
There is 1780ish pilots on the list, but only about 1300 are actually bidding flying lines. Attrition will pick up here over the next few months. We will be at that 950 number by spring.

The 900 is staffed properly, and starting to cover 200 flights due to lack of crews.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by higney85 View Post
This mindset seems quite prevalent, yet irrelevant. With the industry changing, many folks outside of endeavor are changing their tunes. Don't flame it, just stating reality. Applications are growing, but the selection process is becoming competitive.Does it make sense? NO. Is it reality, YES.

Things will be interesting going forward. Endeavor can flourish with -200's waiting to be staffed, or torpedoed without applicants. All of that is outside any of our purview. 100 -200"s need to be staffed per DL network planning, but all the other carriers are not even participating in the RFP. That leaves Endeavor to do it, if the pilots exist.
In my opinion, Delta hasn't made up their mind yet how they want this all to play out. When/if they want to get pilots to come to Endeavor they will. Endeavor has more potential then any other regional in the game, Delta just has to decide to what they want to do with it. By this time next year Endeavor could be the regional to be at or it could be in the process of turning out the lights.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku View Post
In my opinion, Delta hasn't made up their mind yet how they want this all to play out. When/if they want to get pilots to come to Endeavor they will. Endeavor has more potential then any other regional in the game, Delta just has to decide to what they want to do with it. By this time next year Endeavor could be the regional to be at or it could be in the process of turning out the lights.
Bull... they have 2 paths already picked out... neither of which involve a golden ticket for any of us...( or even a bronze ticket ) ALPA is sooo predictable it smacks of collusion/lack of representation that Delta already knows how Endeavor will work out within 2 paths, neither of which will be involving any substantial wage/benefit increases for the life of the [Endeavor] company.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
Fact remains Endeavor is publicly stated by Delta to be a 81 CRJ-900 only airline. To state anything to the contrary is misinformation just like the "or have been a Captain" for SSP.
It takes one simulator to support crews for thirty airplanes. I believe the fourth CRJ900 simulator has been installed in MSP.
Where did you get this "one simulator to support crews for thirty airplanes"?
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Old 09-10-2014, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
Which is completely irrelevant. You have to hand it to Delta. Only Delta can get a pilot group to vote 85% yes, publish a fleet plan/end-state of 81 CR9s, and still get a portion of pilots to actually believe they'll keep as many CR2s as they can staff. Delta = pure genius. 40-45 pilots leaving per month? Perfect for Delta, as they bring Endeavor down to 81 planes which is approx 950 total pilots. In fact, if there are 1850 pilots on property today, Delta wants ~900 pilots gone by end of 2015. Raise pay? Why? Delta is getting exactly what it wants from Endeavor. Only pilots make the mistake of thinking things aren't going according to plan. For Delta, it literally can't get any better. They'll let the rate reset debacle happen at other DCI carriers, force them to do it lower costs than before, and end of 2015 shut down Endeavor. Latest end 2016. By 2017, the only Endeavor Air that will exist is Mel Gibson's in 'Ransom'
Only in your wet dreams Shy.
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