Think twice about Endeavor.
09-18-2014, 05:26 AM
#61
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: Delta chihuahua Capt.
Posts: 462
Originally Posted by Captainobvious
We are moving on.... To other majors, mid majors, regionals, and other career fields, leaving endeavor by the droves and masses. And for those who say its not true, well hey, you don't need to take my word for it. Just take a look at the seniority list from July 30th and then the updated one 17 days later (right around 35 pilots smaller). Pilot morale is made evident by which way our feet are moving, out the door.
. My point was those that have left {mid majors??? } are trying to play career counselor. It does seem like some are suffering from buyers remorse by trying hard to justify their, in most cases here, lateral move to another regional, like compass or Skywest. Which is probably why you don't see ex 9E guys now at Delta/United/AA coming on here bashing 9E. With that said, I understand the nature of a public forum, and the right to post what you want, but when I move on (hopefully very very soon) you will NEVER see my swampy as€ back on an endeavor site again...
09-19-2014, 03:38 PM
#63
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Joined APC: May 2014
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 323
Originally Posted by Survivor
Things are not always what they seem...
For example, consider the following copy from the Endeavor website:
>>Pilots hired at Endeavor under the EtD Commitment will, upon becoming and remaining eligible under the provisions of the Endeavor-to-Delta Pilot Hiring and Commitment Program document, be hired as Delta pilots. As an EtD Commitment pilot, you will not be required to re-interview with Delta as your selection and screening by Endeavor and demonstrated performance thereafter will serve as your ticket to Delta. <<
"and demonstrted performance thereafter..."
What does that mean? Be good little boys and girls (don't make waves and/or stand up for your rights), and we'll put a word in for you at Delta.
There is NO GUARANTEE that you will get a Delta job if you work for Endeavor. NONE. What Endeavor is, is a litmus test to see if you are submissive enough to suck up at Delta later on.
What if you end up in the sim with some jerk and he or she puts an unsat on your PRIA record because he or she had a bad day? Bye, bye Delta.
All Endeavor is, is one big checkride.
Beware.
For example, consider the following copy from the Endeavor website:
>>Pilots hired at Endeavor under the EtD Commitment will, upon becoming and remaining eligible under the provisions of the Endeavor-to-Delta Pilot Hiring and Commitment Program document, be hired as Delta pilots. As an EtD Commitment pilot, you will not be required to re-interview with Delta as your selection and screening by Endeavor and demonstrated performance thereafter will serve as your ticket to Delta. <<
"and demonstrted performance thereafter..."
What does that mean? Be good little boys and girls (don't make waves and/or stand up for your rights), and we'll put a word in for you at Delta.
There is NO GUARANTEE that you will get a Delta job if you work for Endeavor. NONE. What Endeavor is, is a litmus test to see if you are submissive enough to suck up at Delta later on.
What if you end up in the sim with some jerk and he or she puts an unsat on your PRIA record because he or she had a bad day? Bye, bye Delta.
All Endeavor is, is one big checkride.
Beware.
I love to quote movies
Whoever came up with this scam they need to be thrown in a dumpster...Cheeeeeese
Didn't Eagle do this like 3 Septembers ago, if someone still has that offer please post
09-20-2014, 10:58 AM
#65
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 330 B
Posts: 1,610
Originally Posted by Pilot2004
How is the training with Endeavor since they are modeling it after Delta now?
09-20-2014, 04:09 PM
#66
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Joined APC: May 2009
Posts: 2,035
Originally Posted by Captainobvious
We are moving on.... To other majors, mid majors, regionals, and other career fields, leaving endeavor by the droves and masses. And for those who say its not true, well hey, you don't need to take my word for it. Just take a look at the seniority list from July 30th and then the updated one 17 days later (right around 35 pilots smaller). Pilot morale is made evident by which way our feet are moving, out the door.
What's a "mid major"?
09-20-2014, 04:44 PM
#68
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: FIRE ALPA
Posts: 3,082
Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
The DL procedures aren't effective yet. And we are just switching to AQP. Training at Endeavor is generally very good though. Everyone will go out of their way to help you be successful as long as you put in the work.
Last edited by FlyJSH; 09-21-2014 at 08:00 PM.
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