Da40Pilot

I had 1300 when I applied but had 20 hours of multi, and I got an interview offer the next morning. One thing is to fly 80-100 hours a month, but another thing is not do that in a multi. At roughly $250/hour, even building 10-15 hours to some is pretty difficult and expensive, so, yeah, in your application, you should have stated what your plan was in regards to building that multi time and when you were planning on finishing it. It shows them that you are aware of their requirement and that you are being proactive about how you're going to achieve those minimums within the time frame.

badtransam97

So how long are the new hired looking to sit reserve once they upgrade to captain. Specifically taking about the guys with zero 121 time. I know it's Prob close to 2yrs until reaching the 1000hrs, and the upgrade. Just wondering how long one would sit reserve after making capt.

Slick111

If you hire-in with no 121 SIC time, as you stated it'll take close to 2 years to build 1000 hours required to upgrade. But if they also continue to hire former 121 SIC's after you, you probably won't be on reserve very long, (if at all) once you upgrade because you will be senior to all of those former 121 upgrades who hired in after you. THEY'LL be on reserve,..... not you.

Dunkin

Probably 1.5-2 years from your date of hire but from what I have seen I would say only 50% of the FOs with 1000 are actually ready to upgrade and the others could definately use some more time and experience. 1000 hrs is not all that much time so it all depends on how fast you learn and how your prepare yourself for that upgrade during your time in the right seat. Don't be the guy that talks about upgrading only a few months after IOE when he still doesn't know how much hold fuel we have.

Leonardo

I haven't looked at those numbers but I would guess not at all, depending on base.

badtransam97

Is that because of so much movement/attrition? I hear all these guys who are currently upgrading talking about having to be on reserve for awhile, or so it sounds.

pagey

Rumor has it not enough guys are bidding CA right now to fill upgrade classes.......

tom11011

Strange times we live in for sure.

MitchRapp

I think this is only temporary until guys finish up with OE. I'm a Nov 10 guy and I think there are only 6 of us finished with OE. To my knowledge all of my classmates have at least started OE. I'd say there are 15-18 prior 121 from my class.

Dunkin

It will be a long term problem to find enough captains even if they get contractual relief to hire street captains. We have approximately 400 active captains now (prob not even that much but just to make it simple) and we will need about 850 active captains two years from now. Lets say attrition will be 200 captains over the next two years that means they need to add 650 captains in the next 24 months or 27 captains per month. The current captain upgrade pass rate has dropped lately so lets use 75% pass rate going forward and they would need to get 36 pilots a month in upgrade training in order to be properly staffed for 150 airplanes in two years. Add the need to continue to hire at least 50 FOs per month over that same time frame and it seems it will be quite the uphill battle for crew planning. If every eligble FO opts to take the upgrade they still will be short qualified pilots by the end of the year or so I have heard from friends in the training department.