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Old 10-24-2014, 04:32 PM
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Endeavor will be sold in the near future. Once the 900 operation is short handed...look for a for sale sign, or a go away sign...AKA Comair
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Old 10-24-2014, 04:41 PM
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Endeavor will be sold in the near future. Once the 900 operation is short handed...look for a for sale sign, or a go away sign...AKA Comair
Doubtful, we don't have any assets to sell, just a seniority list full of senior pilots. Also, we will be so integrated operationally with Delta, a new company would have to drain significant resources to operate this airline away from the mothership.
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Old 10-24-2014, 04:43 PM
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I think DL HAS stood by the letter of some very loosely written language of the SSP. Did they stand by the "bill of goods" that Wychor (while MEC chair) and the management of both 9e and DL eluded to the pilot group? Answer to that would be hell no. Anyone that trusts that good intentions and the spirit of the language will be adhered to is far too naieve to be trusted as a PIC. The ETD program looks and smells like a sham to me. They are promising something so far in the future I don't think anyone will remember what the original promise was. If 9E folds in the next 5 years (about a 99% probability) DL will drop ALL the employess into the system so fast it will make everyone's head spin. There will be no allegiance to the legacy pilots or the ETD hand picked wonders. Best of luck to anyone who still remains at 9E. I keep reading everyone there predicting some wonderful gift from DL as 9E continually finds downgrades and NY bases (or even continual shifting at DL's whims) What will likely occur could probably best be predicted by people who used to feel secure living in CVG. They probably have the best insight into the future of 9E.

My 2 cents.
The thing is, if Delta wants to grow as an airline in the future, it can't keep flushing pilots down the toilet.
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Old 10-24-2014, 04:59 PM
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That's just it....I'm convinced they could care less. I'm thinking pennies to sell us or shut us down. Anyone who thinks Endeavor is unique to the regional model is smoking crack. At the end of the day...Endeavor = a merger gone terribly bad. These three airlines should have never merged.
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Old 10-24-2014, 07:02 PM
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Doubtful, we don't have any assets to sell, just a seniority list full of senior pilots. Also, we will be so integrated operationally with Delta, a new company would have to drain significant resources to operate this airline away from the mothership.
I disagree. This situation would make for a very attractive acquisition at the right price. There would be zero overlap in departments. No tangible assets isnt always a bad thing.

Endeavor would be a near perfect acquisition for a privately held airline with expiring contracts on a less desirable fleet. Especially if they already had 7-900 pilots. Don't think about it as a pilot. Think about it from a numbers position.

Obviously far fetched, but crazier things have happened.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:38 PM
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I disagree. This situation would make for a very attractive acquisition at the right price. There would be zero overlap in departments. No tangible assets isnt always a bad thing.

Endeavor would be a near perfect acquisition for a privately held airline with expiring contracts on a less desirable fleet. Especially if they already had 7-900 pilots. Don't think about it as a pilot. Think about it from a numbers position.

Obviously far fetched, but crazier things have happened.
Sure, why not integrate another pilot group? It was a piece of cake for the first three.
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Old 10-24-2014, 09:15 PM
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Sure, why not integrate another pilot group? It was a piece of cake for the first three.
Isn't that what AA/US is doing?
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Old 10-24-2014, 10:33 PM
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Also, we will be so integrated operationally with Delta, a new company would have to drain significant resources to operate this airline away from the mothership.
ASA and Comair were in the same position too. Didn't stop Delta from kicking them to the curb.
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Old 10-24-2014, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
Doubtful, we don't have any assets to sell, just a seniority list full of senior pilots. Also, we will be so integrated operationally with Delta, a new company would have to drain significant resources to operate this airline away from the mothership.

LOL. You have no idea how much $$$ Delta is making of of their in house feed which they wholly own. If you think the difference between a $90 per hour senior Capt vs a $73 per hour junior Capt then you really aren't seeing the big picture. And yes I know, the senior guy gets a couple extra weeks of vacation and a little extra 401K match but it still doesn't add up.
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Old 10-25-2014, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob View Post
ASA and Comair were in the same position too. Didn't stop Delta from kicking them to the curb.
ASA wasn't "kicked" to the curb. You might want to read up on why they were sold. DAL needed the cash quick for Amex.
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