Components of company's proposal to ENY MEC
10-29-2014, 08:47 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
Outside of the bitter lifers like Buddies most are indicating they're voting yes this time around. Guys are tired of trying to stand up for an industry that doesn't care. New hires are flocking to PSA, Mesa, PDT, etc. why should they fall on their swords and lose their jobs for nothing?
Good luck guys, I hope it passes.
Good luck guys, I hope it passes.
10-29-2014, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
If true, does anyone see a pattern here? They keep coming back because they cannot execute this plan they have to have Eagle as a ERJ only operator.
Keep firm, guys.
Keep firm, guys.
10-29-2014, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Who is worse?
A pilot who...
Voted in a substandard contract? or One who runs to work for an operator with a well documented bottom of the barrel contract?
I'll take your answers off the air.
A pilot who...
Voted in a substandard contract? or One who runs to work for an operator with a well documented bottom of the barrel contract?
I'll take your answers off the air.
10-29-2014, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
....says the toughguy from XJT who fled to Mesa for the quick upgrade...Really? You went to Mesa and you are going to lecture others?
BTW, I didn't flee to Mesa. I was furloughed in 2008 and exercised my recall rights that were deferred under the 1500 hour rule LOA.
I'll vote "no" on any POS contract that comes along here, but it doesn't mean I have to stagnate my own career while your lifer *** can continue to make 3-4x the pay I make, all while building time that does essentially nothing to my career progression.
I'll do what I can to help the greater good out, but that does not include 8-10 years in right seat of an RJ.
10-30-2014, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
Outside of the bitter lifers like Buddies most are indicating they're voting yes this time around. Guys are tired of trying to stand up for an industry that doesn't care. New hires are flocking to PSA, Mesa, PDT, etc. why should they fall on their swords and lose their jobs for nothing?
Good luck guys, I hope it passes.
Good luck guys, I hope it passes.
Give the flying to someone else, AAG owes us nothing if they can get it cheaper as they say elsewhere, more power to them. As is in the last year they have only promised and no actual contract filed in the 10K regarding compass. The only thing happening at envoy is what was planned 3 years ago, planes being parked and we all knew rumors had RAH in MIA and ORD when they got the contract initially.
But BZZT feel free to keep crying.
10-30-2014, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
better than who gives in and tries to validate there position as you do. new hires have been flocking to psa, pdt and mesa etc, for an awful long time they did not just start yesterday. for those yes voters, what can i say other than spineless and weak. this has nothing to do with falling in any sword, it has to do with stopping management from changing its mind and coming for changes to our contract every 2 months.
Give the flying to someone else, AAG owes us nothing if they can get it cheaper as they say elsewhere, more power to them. As is in the last year they have only promised and no actual contract filed in the 10K regarding compass. The only thing happening at envoy is what was planned 3 years ago, planes being parked and we all knew rumors had RAH in MIA and ORD when they got the contract initially.
But BZZT feel free to keep crying.
Give the flying to someone else, AAG owes us nothing if they can get it cheaper as they say elsewhere, more power to them. As is in the last year they have only promised and no actual contract filed in the 10K regarding compass. The only thing happening at envoy is what was planned 3 years ago, planes being parked and we all knew rumors had RAH in MIA and ORD when they got the contract initially.
But BZZT feel free to keep crying.
10-30-2014, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bzzt
this decision doesn't affect me at all, it does however affect you and your coworkers. It's sad you're so willing to throw away your career because you're angry at the company and unwilling to accept the economic reality of your situation. I sincerely hope that when it comes time to vote on this you consider the coworkers who you're screwing over so you can stick it to the man and make some pointless moral stand.
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