PSA Bumps Up Marketing + Recruitment Effort
12-06-2014, 06:31 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Whoa bro. It's cool. I honestly didn't read your post past the first sentence, tl;dr plz.
If you're looking for support on your PSA decision stick to Facebook. Make sure to include that you "work for American Airlines".
If you're looking for support on your PSA decision stick to Facebook. Make sure to include that you "work for American Airlines".
12-06-2014, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
I just puked in my mouth watching that garbage. PSA pilots are undercutting dirtbags...enough said. Their actions have cost me and my family tens of thousands of dollars (probably hundreds of thousands in future earnings) so I'm sorry if it's not something easily let go. It is something I, and my fellow envoy pilots, will remember for the rest of our airline careers.
12-06-2014, 08:07 PM
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Hey guys the door code is 1550!!
Making a movie to recruit, especially one as poorly made as this one, is an obvious sign of desperation. PSA has hired all the Captains it needs for growth. Anyone hired at this point will make Captain by attrition only. When there are new one year upgrade spots sprouting up every day, it will be harder and harder to attract the necessary applicants, especially as the pool of willing(and able) pilots dries up. Washout rates will continue to rise.
You would think the geniuses at AAG would have seen this coming....or maybe they did? Watch those CRJ700s you don't have yet
Making a movie to recruit, especially one as poorly made as this one, is an obvious sign of desperation. PSA has hired all the Captains it needs for growth. Anyone hired at this point will make Captain by attrition only. When there are new one year upgrade spots sprouting up every day, it will be harder and harder to attract the necessary applicants, especially as the pool of willing(and able) pilots dries up. Washout rates will continue to rise.
You would think the geniuses at AAG would have seen this coming....or maybe they did? Watch those CRJ700s you don't have yet
12-06-2014, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
I just puked in my mouth watching that garbage. PSA pilots are undercutting dirtbags...enough said. Their actions have cost me and my family tens of thousands of dollars (probably hundreds of thousands in future earnings) so I'm sorry if it's not something easily let go. It is something I, and my fellow envoy pilots, will remember for the rest of our airline careers.
12-06-2014, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
I just puked in my mouth watching that garbage. PSA pilots are undercutting dirtbags...enough said. Their actions have cost me and my family tens of thousands of dollars (probably hundreds of thousands in future earnings) so I'm sorry if it's not something easily let go. It is something I, and my fellow envoy pilots, will remember for the rest of our airline careers.
The definition of greed as it relates to upper management honchos at the majors who are looking to squeeze as much moolah as possible in terms of profits and eventual bonuses that will go into their pockets are the people responsible for what happened at Envoy - not the pilots. The pilot group is always put against the wall with impossible decisions to make for themselves and their families. Maybe the insults should be hurled at your bosses for putting you in this situation in the first place.
12-06-2014, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
I've been reading thread after thread and watching the ridiculously and childish way that people throw insults at each-other from each side over the Envoy vs PSA debacle. Instead of wasting your time with name calling and finger pointing, you should realize that the root of the problem was greed and it had NOTHING to do with your fellow pilots.
The definition of greed as it relates to upper management honchos at the majors who are looking to squeeze as much moolah as possible in terms of profits and eventual bonuses that will go into their pockets are the people responsible for what happened at Envoy - not the pilots. The pilot group is always put against the wall with impossible decisions to make for themselves and their families. Maybe the insults should be hurled at your bosses for putting you in this situation in the first place.
The definition of greed as it relates to upper management honchos at the majors who are looking to squeeze as much moolah as possible in terms of profits and eventual bonuses that will go into their pockets are the people responsible for what happened at Envoy - not the pilots. The pilot group is always put against the wall with impossible decisions to make for themselves and their families. Maybe the insults should be hurled at your bosses for putting you in this situation in the first place.
12-06-2014, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pete2800
Nah. You can trust a greedy and dishonest manager to act greedy and dishonest. It's predictable. As pilots, unless we're willing to allow those groups who negatively impact the profession to be called out on their destructiveness, we will continue to see groups act accordingly. Tolerance and understanding are not the solution. It's management's fault that they set up the game. It's the pilots' fault that we continue to play it. I'll stick with public ridicule and open disgust.
12-07-2014, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
I've been reading thread after thread and watching the ridiculously and childish way that people throw insults at each-other from each side over the Envoy vs PSA debacle. Instead of wasting your time with name calling and finger pointing, you should realize that the root of the problem was greed and it had NOTHING to do with your fellow pilots.
The definition of greed as it relates to upper management honchos at the majors who are looking to squeeze as much moolah as possible in terms of profits and eventual bonuses that will go into their pockets are the people responsible for what happened at Envoy - not the pilots. The pilot group is always put against the wall with impossible decisions to make for themselves and their families. Maybe the insults should be hurled at your bosses for putting you in this situation in the first place.
The definition of greed as it relates to upper management honchos at the majors who are looking to squeeze as much moolah as possible in terms of profits and eventual bonuses that will go into their pockets are the people responsible for what happened at Envoy - not the pilots. The pilot group is always put against the wall with impossible decisions to make for themselves and their families. Maybe the insults should be hurled at your bosses for putting you in this situation in the first place.
So PSA pilots have nothing to do with screwing other pilot group??? Keep believing that, PSA pilots acted like management puppets and accepted the first offer. They don't even have a real flow.
12-07-2014, 03:15 AM
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After all that has been happening to Eagle I cannot believe you all are still under the impression that PSA should've voted no, and that voting no would've been good for PSA.
PSA had less than 50 acft at the time of our vote and were told we would be shutdown in the event of a no vote. In less than a year's time AAG has announced either initial placement or transfers of more than 100 acft away from Eagle.
Everyone's war-cry at the time of our vote was "no one can staff your flying, they cannot shut you down." That has been proven to be false.
If PSA voted no we would've been shutdown. Period. Why would it then be ok for PSA pilots to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars and stall their career advancement? Just to say "We went down fighting?" This isn't a movie, it's business and it's real life.
You guys had protection from this sort of thing via scope previously. You voted it away for flow.
PSA had less than 50 acft at the time of our vote and were told we would be shutdown in the event of a no vote. In less than a year's time AAG has announced either initial placement or transfers of more than 100 acft away from Eagle.
Everyone's war-cry at the time of our vote was "no one can staff your flying, they cannot shut you down." That has been proven to be false.
If PSA voted no we would've been shutdown. Period. Why would it then be ok for PSA pilots to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars and stall their career advancement? Just to say "We went down fighting?" This isn't a movie, it's business and it's real life.
You guys had protection from this sort of thing via scope previously. You voted it away for flow.
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