Mesa or Gojet
12-21-2014, 09:34 AM
#42
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 703
Originally Posted by pete2800
You want West coast, and can move anywhere? I work at Horizon, and can offer this information:
- I've worked here 3 years, I'll very likely be offered an upgrade sometime this coming year. The company is planning 90 upgrades and 170-ish new hires in 2015, and I'm 50-something from the most junior Captain.
- You'd have your choice of several bases. All very much West coast.
- The pay is more than you'd make at many other regionals. Open time is frequently offered at 200%, with a 4-hour minimum. Our SAP system lets you drop to the minimum if you want maximum days off. I use a text alert system, and when I woke up this morning there were 6 alerts for 200% for today already. At my rate, that's $345 for showing up and flying 2 short legs. My annual income for the 3 years I've been here has been 34k, 48k, and I'm at 53k for this year so far. I usually work as little as possible, and only pick something up if it's too easy to turn down.
- I've worked here 3 years, I'll very likely be offered an upgrade sometime this coming year. The company is planning 90 upgrades and 170-ish new hires in 2015, and I'm 50-something from the most junior Captain.
- You'd have your choice of several bases. All very much West coast.
- The pay is more than you'd make at many other regionals. Open time is frequently offered at 200%, with a 4-hour minimum. Our SAP system lets you drop to the minimum if you want maximum days off. I use a text alert system, and when I woke up this morning there were 6 alerts for 200% for today already. At my rate, that's $345 for showing up and flying 2 short legs. My annual income for the 3 years I've been here has been 34k, 48k, and I'm at 53k for this year so far. I usually work as little as possible, and only pick something up if it's too easy to turn down.
12-21-2014, 12:25 PM
#45
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,039
Originally Posted by tinman1
Then why am I still seeing captain bid awards in my inbox???
12-21-2014, 02:50 PM
#46
sippin' dat koolaid
Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: gear slinger
Posts: 982
Originally Posted by CBreezy
Do everyone a favor. Spend less time giving your recruiters an old fashioned and more time fixing your disaster that is a contract.
So yeah, bring on the disaster. There will come a day when the regionals reach the end of the rope and start to die off, and we need to let it happen. The last thing we need to do is give pilots a reason to stay and make a career out of this mess that mainline management created. I know it sucks right now but it's better in the long run.
Last edited by tinman1; 12-21-2014 at 03:05 PM.
12-21-2014, 03:24 PM
#48
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: Prime Leader of Boko Harumph
Posts: 1,167
Originally Posted by John2375
90% pass rate is false. And there's plenty of ways to "fail" at Mesa just like any place.
12-21-2014, 04:18 PM
#49
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Posts: 236
My class of 20, two couldn't cut the mustard in the sim. One went to Gojet, other last I heard pdt.
Mesa does not want you to fail, they really don't. I hear horror stories at PSA. If you went to ALL ATPS and did well there in the fast pace environment, Mesa will be a walk in the park. I keep hearing captains in the crew room talking about newhires who can't fly worth a damn. Captains wondering how these guys made it past ioe, let alone the sim! So I doubt many are failing.
My own point of view is that these bad apples need mentoring in a stress free environment and be groomed into excellent pilots. Difference between someone who is considered good vs bad is how much time they required, in this environment. Regionals like Mesa cannot afford to let pilots go that can be made into good pilots.
Mesa does not want you to fail, they really don't. I hear horror stories at PSA. If you went to ALL ATPS and did well there in the fast pace environment, Mesa will be a walk in the park. I keep hearing captains in the crew room talking about newhires who can't fly worth a damn. Captains wondering how these guys made it past ioe, let alone the sim! So I doubt many are failing.
My own point of view is that these bad apples need mentoring in a stress free environment and be groomed into excellent pilots. Difference between someone who is considered good vs bad is how much time they required, in this environment. Regionals like Mesa cannot afford to let pilots go that can be made into good pilots.
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