Type 4 on the upper fusalege of the CRJ...
02-27-2015, 12:55 PM
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Type 4 on the upper fusalege of the CRJ...
So we just got a memo saying we need to anti-ice the upper surface of the fusalege and after doing so take off unpressurized.
Any other CRJ operators getting this?
What a stupid idea! I get that Bombardier calls it a "critical surface" but come on! A little common sense?
Any other CRJ operators getting this?
What a stupid idea! I get that Bombardier calls it a "critical surface" but come on! A little common sense?
02-27-2015, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
So we just got a memo saying we need to anti-ice the upper surface of the fusalege and after doing so take off unpressurized.
Any other CRJ operators getting this?
What a stupid idea! I get that Bombardier calls it a "critical surface" but come on! A little common sense?
Any other CRJ operators getting this?
What a stupid idea! I get that Bombardier calls it a "critical surface" but come on! A little common sense?
02-27-2015, 01:10 PM
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Hmmn, ZW has been instructed by the FAA to do it since the beginning of the season.
Its not difficult to do, but we still dont have an official updated checklist for it. Most crews have to piece together two checklists and systems knowledge to get it done right. The whole aircraft is deiced with type one before the type four application.
I think its stupid.
Its not difficult to do, but we still dont have an official updated checklist for it. Most crews have to piece together two checklists and systems knowledge to get it done right. The whole aircraft is deiced with type one before the type four application.
I think its stupid.
02-27-2015, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
I think it is crazy that some people think only the wings and tail need to be deiced. Ice on a fuselage can add a lot of drag and weight and can impede aircraft performance even if the wings and tail are clean.
Seems equally as dangerous to me to have a pilot looking down/up distracted with the bleeds while type 4 (Which is nasty stuff, I've found that stuff a whole day later leaking out of cracks and crevices you never would have thought possible) spews into the RAM AIR vent.
02-27-2015, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
I think it is crazy that some people think only the wings and tail need to be deiced. Ice on a fuselage can add a lot of drag and weight and can impede aircraft performance even if the wings and tail are clean.
02-27-2015, 01:29 PM
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I have always done the entire aircraft with anti-ice too. I don't want to have to worry about what the top of my fuselage looks like after a 20 minute taxi. Some of the ERJ doors leaked a little, but we just made sure to tell the FA to step away from it. And I don't see what is wrong with taking off unpressurized. As long as their is sufficient training, what is wrong with turning on the bleeds during the after takeoff checklist?
02-27-2015, 01:34 PM
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Type 4 on the upper fusalege of the CRJ...
At xjt, we are required to anti ice entire aircraft. Wings and tail no longer allowed. We are also required turn the APU and thus takeoff unpressurized. The packs come on at 1000. Your ears will be popping until yet get them on.
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