Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom

CRJ700 SFO-AUS, filed FL390 climbing through FL290, left engine VIB in yellow, after I pulled it back to the green and about 68%, I asked the F/O who had been lamenting his lack of upgrade, "So Mr Captain what now do we do now".

Originally Posted by el jefe

The biggest DB/clueless captains I have flown with were all quick upgrades who spent very little time in the right seat.

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom

And once again, you are only partially correct grasshopper. These("most likely a small few") are more numerous than you might imagine. Why do you think I come here and spend my coffee drinking time trying to get you guys to think outside your boxes? If you want to hear about hard lessons learned, you have to be willing to listen. You and wrx and a couple of others think you can come here and "cyberbully" me and the few other guys who come here and type stuff that doesn't match your expectations and think that your snarky replies will silence us, it won't. What I have done is typed some personal experiences, and you don't like that, for what reason I cannot fathom. Oh well its like talking quantum physics to my dog, he listens, but doesn't really add much to the conversation.

Originally Posted by NineGturn

I think it's a good discussion. I upgraded after about a thousand hours in the right seat but simultaneously transitioned to a new type. Back then you didn't get hired in the first place unless you already had a bunch of multi and PIC time under your belt so I already had several thousand hours total.

Washout rates were very high and the upgrade was challenging. We did NDB approaches and circling approaches and there was no GPS or autopilot or glass or FMS. There were no such thing as regional jets.

I made mistakes on the line that cost the company money here and there...nothing major but I learned from those mistakes and didn't repeat them. I made sure my First Officers knew every mistake I made when the opportunity presented itself and why.

Unfortunately it seems many airlines don't seem to factor in those common "new captain mistakes" into their labor costs. I would have greatly benefited from more years in the right seat but instead I learned on the line.

At the time every single FO felt ready to be a captain and most of them made it. Usually you don't know how little you know until you are sitting in that seat.

My issue today is that most pilots get their first captain experience with similar time in the left seat of a large jet carrying far more passengers than I did back then.

Originally Posted by kfahmi

I hope you're not like this in person. While this forum is obviously for entertainment purposes only, the arrogance and condescension you've exhibited in this thread are perfect examples of what a captain (of a boat, of an RJ, of a 747, of a rubber dinghy) should strive at all costs to avoid.

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom

Oh wonderful, 2 months online, and an expert on leadership.

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom

Oh wonderful, 2 months online, and an expert on leadership. Newsflash, commanding a cubicle, and reading Wikipedia does not make you qualified for much more than a keyboard. 'nuther newsflash, command, on the best of days, is a benevolent dictatorship. I expect this to set lots of hair on fire! If you think the flightdeck is a democracy, good luck. Your job, by SOP definition is to assist the captain. Read it, know it, live it....."Mr RJ right-seat warmer"

Originally Posted by Hacker15e

Any ideas on what he used to do before coming to your company?

There are 20+-year military officers who are getting hired as new FOs at your company who know a whole lot about, and have a lot of experience with, leadership. Knowledge and experience learned and earned years before they ever even submitted an application to sit in the right seat of an RJ.