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Old 03-07-2015, 04:49 AM
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Looks like United has formed a new ground handling subsidiary to the likes of Envoy and DGS. Also, Sandra Pineau-Boddison has been replaced as SVP-United Express by former SkyWest President Brad Rich.

Reshuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic it seems.

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Wonder if we will see a United wholly-owned carrier soon. AMR used to want to get rid of Eagle now AAG wants to keep the wholly owned carriers and bring the flying back in house. Same with Endeavor.

Most likely they will have to buy another one but would also make sense to create a new one from scratch, keep pilot costs low since no "gummers", make a flow through and rob their competition of any new blood plus churn.
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Wonder if we will see a United wholly-owned carrier soon. AMR used to want to get rid of Eagle now AAG wants to keep the wholly owned carriers and bring the flying back in house. Same with Endeavor.
United is always behind the curve to see what the other carriers do, i wouldn't be surprised if a cheap *** place like TSA or C5 would be wholly owned....
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Wonder if we will see a United wholly-owned carrier soon. AMR used to want to get rid of Eagle now AAG wants to keep the wholly owned carriers and bring the flying back in house. Same with Endeavor.

Most likely they will have to buy another one but would also make sense to create a new one from scratch, keep pilot costs low since no "gummers", make a flow through and rob their competition of any new blood plus churn.
It wont happen.. AFA contract stats any airline/regional that is owned by ual/parent company must be on the ual F/a seniority list..
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It wont happen.. AFA contract stats any airline/regional that is owned by ual/parent company must be on the ual F/a seniority list..
Current contract. There is still no joint contract between sCO and sUA flight attendants. All UA has to do is dangle a carrot and the flight attendants will bite.
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Most likely they will have to buy another one but would also make sense to create a new one from scratch, keep pilot costs low since no "gummers", make a flow through and rob their competition of any new blood plus churn.
Congrats, you made it in to the new millennium. "Scratch" costs time, money and FAA speeds of paper pushing. Those "gummers" as you so eloquently put it, serve a purpose, they fly planes. Age 65 came into being for one reason, they realized that losing them in one calandar year was gonna be far more expensive than paying them for 5 more. Grab your Depends, age 67 is just a legislative pen/keystroke away, as the dope, booze, couch potato crowd are shuffled into the nursing homes, the next generation will be fine until they die at 75+, which is how long they will need to pay off their student loans.
With Brad Rich worming into UAL Hdq, this is more than some ground handling ploy. Skywest has been divesting themselves of the ground handling business since Chimp was first promoted. The implications are far deeper and more complex than it might seem. UAL sends Marren down to the minors, brings Rich up to the majors, seems that the cross pollination is being tried to create a hybrid. While I do acknowledge that UAL is a corp. that specializes in Titanic style deck chair services, even they cannot be oblivious to their reality.
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Current contract. There is still no joint contract between sCO and sUA flight attendants. All UA has to do is dangle a carrot and the flight attendants will bite.
Or they go ahead and merge the lists, and drive a new vote. If you offer a Skywest F/A a new coat they will vote for anything, boom, no more Union.
Next problem....
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Or they go ahead and merge the lists, and drive a new vote. If you offer a Skywest F/A a new coat they will vote for anything, boom, no more Union.

Next problem....

I don't think Skywest FA's come close to a majority. We are taking about 20,000+ FAs at UAL combined.
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I don't think Skywest FA's come close to a majority. We are taking about 20,000+ FAs at UAL combined.
20,000 F/As - 17356 who simply don't care, add the SKYW cat/coat club and it might work, specially if they added them to the CAL list
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Sounds like UAL is finally realizing the outsourcing binge is a customer service disaster. We'll see if this works....
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