Envoy FOs to possibly get $20k retention!
03-29-2015, 10:52 AM
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The parts that matter are "under review by AAG" and " if approved by AAG". Correct me if I am wrong but Endeavor did not talk about theirs beforehand, Delta simply made it happen. AAG has been good over the last three years stringing our Fo's along with this type of info.
03-29-2015, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
He is right: that very well could be their plan. All of this is smoke and mirrors right now. Actions like an executed retention plan would show their intentions. Doing nothing would also show their direction. Right now we just have to wait and see. We are rapidly approaching the point where their intentions become obvious though.
03-29-2015, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2
Forgot you have the crystal ball and know exactly what's going to happen a year down the road.
In the next 5 years 1/3 of all US airline pilots will retire. There is going to be winner and loser regional airlines, some are going to survive but many will not. When you are knee deep into a situation, sometimes its hard to see with clarity what's really going on. But from an outsiders point of view, I just don't see how anyone can see it any other way. Envoy is a shrinking airline with a top heavy labor structure. One way or the other the balance is going to be restored. The shareholders demand it.
03-29-2015, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
I do know this- Fabregas can't give a retention bonus to a select group of already employeed pilots without giving it to all pilots. He can give a signing bonus to a new hire pilot, but that's the extent of it.
In the next 5 years 1/3 of all US airline pilots will retire. There is going to be winner and loser regional airlines, some are going to survive but many will not. When you are knee deep into a situation, sometimes its hard to see with clarity what's really going on. But from an outsiders point of view, I just don't see how anyone can see it any other way. Envoy is a shrinking airline with a top heavy labor structure. One way or the other the balance is going to be restored. The shareholders demand it.
In the next 5 years 1/3 of all US airline pilots will retire. There is going to be winner and loser regional airlines, some are going to survive but many will not. When you are knee deep into a situation, sometimes its hard to see with clarity what's really going on. But from an outsiders point of view, I just don't see how anyone can see it any other way. Envoy is a shrinking airline with a top heavy labor structure. One way or the other the balance is going to be restored. The shareholders demand it.
03-29-2015, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Really? Where does it say that? They gave us $12.5k and FOs $7.5k just recently. They can give one group less than the other. Why can't they give nothing to one and more to the other?
03-29-2015, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
The only people who will get bonus's are those who are going to see the airline through to its orderly shutdown next year.
03-29-2015, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Really? Where does it say that? They gave us $12.5k and FOs $7.5k just recently. They can give one group less than the other. Why can't they give nothing to one and more to the other?
03-29-2015, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
You're union signed off on it that's why. But if you think your union and Captains are going to sign off on an endeavor style bonus and captains are going to see nothing out of it I highly doubt it.
03-29-2015, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Justrun
Do you get off on seeing an airline shutdown and thousands of people lose their jobs? It seems that way.
03-29-2015, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Justrun
Do you get off on seeing an airline shutdown and thousands of people lose their jobs? It seems that way.
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