Seven month upgrade at TSA?
04-14-2015, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Hou757
CQFO was already an upgrade. Already had plenty of hours. 7 month upgrade of a low time guy is the problem..
04-14-2015, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Why would it be any different than being an FO?
04-14-2015, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Maingear
It should be different and I doubt the FAA would allow a CA on probation. Safety starts to break down when a CA is de-facto forced to make a flight when it's not safe just because they're on probation. CAs have no business being on probation, even as a street CA.
PS - last I checked they are violating pilots in pairs these days, not to mention the dispatcher is jointly responsible.
04-14-2015, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Maingear
It should be different and I doubt the FAA would allow a CA on probation. Safety starts to break down when a CA is de-facto forced to make a flight when it's not safe just because they're on probation. CAs have no business being on probation, even as a street CA.
How many ASAPs would it take to get the attention of the FAA with the subject "it was unsafe to fly and my chief pilot threatened to terminate me if I didn't go?"
Skywest is non-union. Are they de-facto the most dangerous airline ever?
04-14-2015, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
This could be the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my whole time on this board. Regardless of whether you're on probation, a certificated ATP should never conduct a flight if it wasn't safe to do so. The FAA should be more concerned with a 121 operator that is "forcing" their pilots to fly.
How many ASAPs would it take to get the attention of the FAA with the subject "it was unsafe to fly and my chief pilot threatened to terminate me if I didn't go?"
Skywest is non-union. Are they de-facto the most dangerous airline ever?
How many ASAPs would it take to get the attention of the FAA with the subject "it was unsafe to fly and my chief pilot threatened to terminate me if I didn't go?"
Skywest is non-union. Are they de-facto the most dangerous airline ever?
What I'm saying is that a brand new CA with the bare minimum experience and being at a company that's known for retribution against it's employees could be pressured to take a flight they shouldn't. I know that they should put their foot down, but you and I both know there's pilots that are too scared to put their foot down for anything and being on probation as an inexperienced CA does not help things.
04-14-2015, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
You have to have 2500 hours and 1000 SIC to upgrade. That's higher than both Mesa and PSA. Additionally, to get 1000 SIC, you need a minimum of almost two years on property. Next time think before you talk. You're making yourself look ridiculous.
04-14-2015, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BrewCity
That "low time guy" has at least 2500 hours including 1000 part 121. Yes, that's pretty low time for an RJ captain but your company managed to run 18 month upgrades and nobody put one into a Mexican mountain.
04-14-2015, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Maingear
I doubt it's the dumbest thing you've ever heard on this board...
What I'm saying is that a brand new CA with the bare minimum experience and being at a company that's known for retribution against it's employees could be pressured to take a flight they shouldn't. I know that they should put their foot down, but you and I both know there's pilots that are too scared to put their foot down for anything and being on probation as an inexperienced CA does not help things.
What I'm saying is that a brand new CA with the bare minimum experience and being at a company that's known for retribution against it's employees could be pressured to take a flight they shouldn't. I know that they should put their foot down, but you and I both know there's pilots that are too scared to put their foot down for anything and being on probation as an inexperienced CA does not help things.
Hou, why aren't you on the PSA and Mesa threads complaining about their 1000 SIC with potentially less than 2500TT? It will be fine. Promise.
04-14-2015, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Hou757
18 months is quite a bit more than 7 months in terms of experience. (depending how much they have flown)
04-14-2015, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Hou757
18 months is quite a bit more than 7 months in terms of experience. (depending how much they have flown)
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