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Old 09-02-2015, 05:36 PM
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I'm not familiar with the CRJ, but the 200 and 900 are separate pilot groups correct? Is that due to the labor agreement or are the differences between the 200 and 900 so great that it requires pilots dedicated to each specific model? Thanks.
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:16 PM
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I'm not familiar with the CRJ, but the 200 and 900 are separate pilot groups correct? Is that due to the labor agreement or are the differences between the 200 and 900 so great that it requires pilots dedicated to each specific model? Thanks.
Same type with differences....

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Old 09-02-2015, 07:11 PM
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I'm not familiar with the CRJ, but the 200 and 900 are separate pilot groups correct? Is that due to the labor agreement or are the differences between the 200 and 900 so great that it requires pilots dedicated to each specific model? Thanks.
They are different bid groups. This is mostly due to the contract. The airplanes were operated using different procedures (900 was the XJ way and 200 was the 9E way), but we are in the middle of harmonizing the procedures between the fleets which also happens to be a pretty close copy of how DL operates..... Hmmmm
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Old 09-02-2015, 07:29 PM
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They are different bid groups. This is mostly due to the contract. The airplanes were operated using different procedures (900 was the XJ way and 200 was the 9E way), but we are in the middle of harmonizing the procedures between the fleets which also happens to be a pretty close copy of how DL operates..... Hmmmm
Close? You mean exactly how they operate. Besides a/c differences.
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Old 09-02-2015, 10:44 PM
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Interesting. Thanks for the info.


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Old 09-03-2015, 05:09 AM
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Yeah and they'll stay separate bid groups too at least through next year for a multitude of reasons. I wouldn't be surprised though to see a push for dual qual like PSA and SkyWest do once the Bloch award expires. As long as that is in effect, it makes dual qual too complicated to sort out...maybe impossible to sort out.
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Old 09-03-2015, 05:26 AM
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Close? You mean exactly how they operate. Besides a/c differences.
From what I've seen sitting in the Jumpseat on mainline there are some very subtle differences, unless the mainline pilots are not following their own procedure.
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Old 09-03-2015, 09:41 AM
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From what I've seen sitting in the Jumpseat on mainline there are some very subtle differences, unless the mainline pilots are not following their own procedure.
We still have two more phases to implement before we get to the end state procedures.
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Old 09-03-2015, 12:46 PM
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We still have two more phases to implement before we get to the end state procedures.
I'm referring to the phase that was just implemented. When does 9E do the "runway pos, dep, first fix" and "final t/o brief (HAA)"?

When I sit on the jumpseat on mainline they verbalized those things during the checklist. We are suppose to do the talking before the checklist is started.
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I'm referring to the phase that was just implemented. When does 9E do the "runway pos, dep, first fix" and "final t/o brief (HAA)"?

When I sit on the jumpseat on mainline they verbalized those things during the checklist. We are suppose to do the talking before the checklist is started.
True, but the verbiage requires that it's done before the checklist is complete. Rev 2 (of 4) is in place, but we are "halfway" there
and line vs book are 2 very different metrics (from experience in training and the line). Read the book, do it by the book. Why? Cause our current book says so. 2 revisions down the line, it can all be different. But it's not current book.
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