DirkDiggler

It looks like some attorneys are trying to gather a few plaintiffs for an ExpressJet flight attendant lawsuit as well.

ExpressJet Flight Attendant Unpaid Wages Lawsuit | ClassAction.org

Pnclpurgatory

This frustrates me as I hope there is a case, but That case skywest fas lost a few years back was a huge step back for labor.
Recently, a Jetblue former flight attendant filed a lawsuit on violations wage & labor as per the California wage and labor laws (California says you must have to be paid for all hours on duty unless there is a bargaining unit in place) . The question in that case , did Jetblue have an internal union or "inflight social club" ? Furthermore, did the JetBlue fas have to vote on the members of the inflight social club? If the answer is NO to both, then JetBlue will more than likely be paying duty hours to all California residents that are flight attendants former and recent.

The Skywest verdict, my interpretation of the ruling (correct me if I'm wrong) was that Skywest claimed the flight attendants had a bargaining unit that was working in the interests of the flight attendants and that California wage and labor provisions could not apply. The judge agreed with Skywest when actually the fas never voted on the members and the "union". It was just a coalition of fas to relate info of "how are things going on the line" with coffee, cookies, and diet coke.

Now, Delta, has their flight attendants vote on the "inflight social club" and claim they are the bargaining representatives of the flight attendants. This is to only get around certain laws of states similar to California. That is why being no union isn't good, because the company will elect people to represent you which will be at no cost to you, or stay your union which you can try to change from the inside at a price to belong. Pick your posion

In Los Angeles , large hotels now have to pay a worker $15.37 but the zinger is this may be waived if there is a collective bargaining unit in place.

I just can't comprehend Why are unions allowing this to happen? Pay union members lower and on top of that those union members have to pay dues to be protected by lower wages? I'm pro union but, I'm also a realist, and this just seems nutty. For aviation , Why are the unions not working for airline employees to receive overtime and be paid duty time? To even go further, stoping airlines from publishing only flight hour pay to the public and forcing them to calculate and publish per hour. The general public doesn't understand $30.00 a flight hr and just assumes that means $30.00 per hour/40hr week and when we are delayed we are going to be seeing some overtime. Which, we all know that is absolutely further from the truth.

squib

Taken from the link..

"Verifying that the plane has been refueled"

Seriously? Go back to handing out cups of flat soda.

Olario

Got turned down by a flight attendant on an overnight?
I know you are Gods gift to aviation but you couldnt put up with passengers and do their job for 5 min.
Chill out.....

deepwater

... have that attitude and you'll get nuthin' outta my galley, jerk.

Mesabah

You know they have to keep the door open while fueling.

LNL76

These posts bring a little tear to my eye....(sniff, sniff.) Seriously, thanks guys. I'm glad some of you get it.

airlinegypsy

And at my airline the FA's don't close the door until we tell them to...

squib

Exactly, they don't ask "Do we have the right amount of fuel on board to depart?" They ask, "is it ok to close the door?"

Planedrive

It makes sense to get paid for duty time. Not only for flight attendants but pilots as well. I'm surprised this isn't brought up more often. Why doesn't ALPA push for this?